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  • Russian forces in Ukraine are reportedly using Starlink terminals for internet connectivity.
  • The Ukrainian military claims that the use of Starlink by Russian troops is becoming "systemic".
  • SpaceX, the owner of Starlink, denies selling equipment to the Russian government or military.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 86 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe Elon needs to go to prison for eggregiously violating sanctions. Is that a thing? Can someone get prison time for such a crime?

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

lol, not the rich. If only there were some legal mechanism to freeze his accounts...

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good thinking. We freeze the accounts of other Russian oligarchs. Why not this one?

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Basically, the US is being held hostage on numerous fronts by Musk. The man influences s so much of American life in including infrastructure as well as critical technology in aerospace, that pissing him off risks massive geopolitical losses for America.

[–] disheveledWallaby@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nationalize his business and sanction all his assets for aiding and abetting the enemy and working as a foreign agent against the US and our allies. Lock him up or deport his ass to Russia.

[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Deport him to Russia's new Conservative Camp.. err.. i mean Village

[–] VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Western front

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

the second he moves to russia he falls out a window. I support this plan.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

An egregious federal crime that could relieve him of those powers might be useful in this case.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not stamping him down would pose the bigger risk long term then.

[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No rich person has thought of the long term in a while.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

They’re buying up bunkers and mega yachts invade they need to escape the hoards.

I wonder what the plan is when all their domestic staff revolt though? Working for rich dudes means you know where most/all of their important shit is.

[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 77 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Take away his government contracts, claw back the funds and prosecute him.

[–] ZhaoYadang@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Even better, nationalize it. We don’t have to let Musk keep control of it at all.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

I don't think y'all want to take over that shit show of a company.

It's an unsustainable model

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago

Lmao now the US is actually funding a tool Putin is using against the US.

Trump isn't even elected yet either.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Musk is the Henry Ford of our time. Helping his pal, the enemy, as far as possible within the bounds of treason laws.

[–] ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

"I may have committed some light treason."

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But I thought Elon Musk said that starlink wasn't used by Russia "as far as he knows"?

[–] deadcream@sopuli.xyz 34 points 2 years ago

No, he said that he doesn't sell starlink terminals in Russia. When asked whether Russia uses starlink he declined to answer.

[–] TacoThrash3r@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Nothing like war profiteering

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

But Starlink is not on in the contested areas is it? At least in Crimea.. or did they turn it on now?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Russian forces are using Starlink terminals on the front line in Ukraine, according to the Ukrainian military, which said the adoption of Elon Musk’s satellite internet service by Moscow’s troops was becoming “systemic”.

In a post on X on Sunday Musk, the company’s chief executive, said: “A number of false news reports claim that SpaceX is selling Starlink terminals to Russia.

Musk provided thousands of Starlink terminals to Ukraine to help it fend off Russian troops soon after their full-scale invasion in February 2022, giving Kyiv’s forces a valuable technological advantage in the form of high-speed internet for communications, targeting and battlefield management software.

However, Kyiv’s praise for the businessman turned to fury when Musk started to limit the operation of Starlink in areas of Ukraine that Russian forces have occupied since 2014, including Crimea.

But introducing or reintroducing so-called “geofencing” to stop Starlink use by Russia on the front line could also affect the Ukrainian military’s devices given the proximity of the two sides’ positions.

A biography of Musk by Walter Isaacson published last autumn detailed how the tycoon refused to allow Starlink to be used by Ukrainian forces for a naval drone strike on Russian ships in Sevastopol.


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[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Weren't they also doing this last year? How is this news? Attention everyone, this guy invented a wheel and you can move things easily with it!

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

De-privatize.. it is currently a privately owned company. It has reached a point where it could be chopped up, some of it goes to MilSatCom the rest to NASA.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Derp, thanks.

Nationalize, maybe