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[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 233 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Do it. I know which OS will run fine on 8G of RAM and which one won't.

[–] Damarus@feddit.org 109 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I wouldn't be happy with 8 GB of RAM regardless of OS.

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Same, I am often about 8 GB of RAM with my daily usage.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Debian keeps barfing on me with 16.

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[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Someone's smelling the year of the desktop

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[–] comador@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Minix and FreeBSD...

/runs; hides

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[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 101 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Hah, guess they're gonna have to run Linux. Windows 11 would choke on 8 GB RAM.

[–] bananabread@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 month ago

It's the year of the Linux desktop!

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

I agree, funny enough they require minimum 4 GB, but I had problems with it with 16 GB. 8 GB is nowhere near enough, especially if you use excel, teams, and that crap.

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[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 77 points 1 month ago (5 children)

So RAM costs them more now, and they need to pass those costs onto customers. However, it seems like they’re also trying to redefine what “mid-range” means to us all, as if we aren’t fully aware of what computers are capable of and what amount of memory is good vs not. Making the various ranges cost more is intuitive. Enshitifying the ranges to sell them at the same price is just antithetical to the whole concept of the ranges…

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s like if batteries got stupid expensive and they tried to tell us 200km of range is what you get in a touring EV these days. But the distances between all the places haven’t changed…

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 15 points 1 month ago

Can see that happening, in this fake economy.

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[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Maybe this will be a boon. The entire reason the ram requirements got so high as it is is because software optimization was put on the back burner. Maybe a ram shortage where people can't obtain the ram needed will force the big name software devs to start being more frugal with ram. (talking to you chrome... whom currently is using 2 gigs alone just trying to show a twitch stream...)

[–] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 67 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Or more realistically be used as an excuse for always online cloud based services a la office 365. "We would let you download the app, but most users don't have the computing power so instead we'll just make this a helpful subscription!"

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[–] kieron115@startrek.website 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

At least one studio, Larian, has confirmed this is the case for them.

When discussing the pressures the company faces when releasing a game in early access, such as audience expectations, Vincke told us, "Interestingly, another [issue Larian is facing] is really the price of RAM and the price of SSDs and f**k, man. It's like, literally, we've never had it like this."

He continued, "It kind of ruins all of your projections that you had about it because normally, you know the curves, and you can protect the hardware. It's gonna be an interesting one. It means that most likely, we already need to do a lot of optimization work in early access that we didn't necessarily want to do at that point in time. So it's challenging, but it's video games."

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 65 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Large computing will exist solely in the cloud where you will pay a subscription for it. Can't have these grubbing consumers buy anything we elites don't get a monthly cut of.

I wish this was sarcasm.

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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 62 points 1 month ago

It's neat that AI is already ruining the world in really tangible ways.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

8 GB of RAM would be enough if every fucking application didn't use Electron.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Or web applications, Firefox/Chrome uses like 32 GB RAM and constantly crashes my computer because of it

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[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Soldered in, or upgradeable at least? The former would be a huge reason to never buy the newest gen of laptops.

EDIT: Missed in article, yeah this would suck if they stick to soldered RAM for ultra-thins.

Another problem manufacturers face is with notebooks that ship with soldered DRAM. In particular, ultrathin designs would need to be revamped to modify their configurations.

[–] ThisGuyThat@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Those soldered low RAM ones are going to be in the dump a lot sooner.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They do not care about the planned obsolescence of it all.

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[–] tym@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I speak on behalf of all IT Support personnel everywhere when I say "fuck you"

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[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Let's see how this plays out with windows 11 😄

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Time to switch to Linux people lol. Windows is barely usable on 8GB these days.

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[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 month ago (18 children)

better start removing AI from Windows then... holy fucj my 16gb is barely holding up with windows11 that in forced to use on my work PC. slow as BALLS, it's just raping the entire system performance constantly

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (17 children)

Does midrange being at 8GB mean that entry level will be 4GB? because I know corpos are gonna be corpos.

(I don't think windows even run at 4GB lmfao)

Edit: Also, this RAM shortage might force people to use Linux 😁

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 month ago (4 children)

8 GIGABYTES!!? How am I supposed to load a mouse driver in THAT!?

[–] CucumberFetish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

You don't need to load the mouse driver on your laptop. We have a subscription service for it!

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

mid-range laptops to 8GB

My not-terribly-new phone has 12GB of memory, and I'm pretty sure that Android is a lot lighter on memory than the Windows 11 that I suspect a lot of these are going to be running.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Don’t worry Microsoft will shove as much agentic AI bullshit into Windows 11 as they can, further ruining performance.

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This wouldn't be much of an issue if most of the laptops nowadays didn't come with soldered in ram and no options of expanding.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

Why not just tell me to go fuck myself and skip the unsatisfying foreplay?

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 33 points 1 month ago

lol lets fuck all other computational sciences so that people can generate cats drinking whiskey in robes de chambre.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

More like for the price of 64GB.

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[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

...and I'm still on 4 GB RAM, TROLOLOL

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago (5 children)
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[–] Cryxtalix@programming.dev 23 points 1 month ago

What. My six year old cheapo Acer laptop that got my broke ass through college had 16gb ram. My raspberry pi has 8gb of ram.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And developers will make their shitty apps more resource-efficient, right? RIGHT!?

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

They'll solder 4gb. So even if RAM prices go down, you're still effffed

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[–] itsathursday@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

The AI snake is finally eating its tail.

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