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GOP warning of 'national security threat' is about Russia wanting nuclear weapon in space: Sources::The White House will meet with congressional leadership as a top Republican is requesting President Biden declassify information on a "serious national security threat"

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[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait they are warning us about Russia yet they want the oompa loopa that supports them.

[–] xor@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

really they all hate him and just want his supporters....

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] xor@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

yep... in 2015 he was the laughing stock of the gop... until he started winning

the fact that he got the nomination again blows my mind...
i'm legitimately concerned about a civil war at this point...

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They are trying to create the narrative that Biden is helping Putin too because Trump so obviously does it. It's whataboutism.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's concerning that right before this it came out musk is letting Russia use starlink and musk almost immediately said he's taking some starling satellites out of orbit.

Pretty sure he's always been fine leaving space filled with broken shitty satellites.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

He's letting Russia use starlink? Care to elaborate? That would be a direct violation of sanctions the US has put over Russia.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Russia proper is geofenced and cannot use Starlink at all

Russian citizens and individual members of militias/armed forces are buying terminals (via smugglers) and using them within Ukraine

Short of blocking the Russia side of the front line as it changes daily, they can play whack-a-mole with terminals used by Russian/aligned forces

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You said "musk is letting Russia use starlink"

That's a very specific claim but nothing in the article you linked indicates that this has anything to do with "Musk letting them do so" nor does it say that he denies the claims of them using it either. It only says that they don't sell them to Russia and to our current knowledge this is true. Starlink doesn't work in Russia or the occupied territories. It does work near the front lines though because Ukrainians are using them aswell.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, you can believe the Ukrainian government, or Elon Musk.

Pretty easy choice for most people.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe you should just read the article you linked and stop making up stuff. You can hate Musk as much as you like but that doesn't justify spreading lies.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

Shitty people do shitty things, news at 11.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Didn't Russia sign some sort of treaty that prohibited that?

They wouldn't just go and ignore a treaty, would they?

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'll argue that they didn't sign the treaty, the USSR did.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if the federation signed it, they'd still find a reason to ignore it if they wanted to.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Huh? What Budapest Memorandum do you refer to comrade?"

-Russia probably

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It wouldn't matter they see the US Space Force as a violation of that charter

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Let's be real: If it wasn't that, they'd come up with another excuse.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago

Frankly I think all states on the planet capable of that would ignore any treaties if they could get such a stick to wave around.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
[–] throw4w4y5@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

putting the blast into oblast

😆

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Texas has the same GDP as all of Russia. Both New York and California are considerably larger than all of Russia. There is no scalable parity here. China is more serious, but Russia is nothing more than a sadistic nuisance. Moving away from fossil fuels in the next few decades will make Russia into a backwater wilderness even more than it already is. The current war's workforce generation gap is their death knell.

It would not surprise me one bit if Putin's rhetoric is done in collusion with the US military industrial complex behind the scenes. He's already funding the Republican party. It would only make sense that he is also working closely with the real powers.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Which leads me to ask: if he has to have a launch capacity in space, how badly broken is Russia's launch capacity?

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His nuclear arsenal is primarily 50-year-old delivery systems that have been "maintained" by notorious black market scalpers. It would be a surprise if even one ICBM could make it to its destination and then detonate with effect, even if absolutely no countermeasures were deployed.

The world has been politely capitulating to a man they know is bluffing. It's been the lazy way out for decades now. It's time to call his bluff and end this regime of terror.

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

thats a hell of a risk to take though, and he knows no-one can take it

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

One of the things about New START is the US and Russia inspect each other's launch capacity, and its a bit of a zero sum game: The US would never admit it has better launch capacity against Russia because it tells China and Iran they can sweep in and gain soft power. The US could admit it and then the rest of the world sees a hyperpower situation again and a need to de-escalate its own capacity.

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 2 points 1 year ago

They wouldn't though, even if 5% of their missiles/nukes work, millions would die.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

They probably sent all their engineers to die in Ukraine.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Ok, what are they trying to distract us from now?

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

As predicted in the plot of Space Cowboys

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh look, it's the next fear mongering tactic.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

So the GoldenEye program is real!