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[–] sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 131 points 1 month ago (9 children)

When this all crashes to the ground it's going to be ugly.

[–] Pechente@feddit.org 81 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Can’t happen soon enough. Few people want AI and now it will fuck over a bunch of people very directly. No idea how long the investors can keep inflating this bubble now.

[–] U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the problem is that governments want AI for their surveillance bullshit, especially FSA. they will never let any of these companies fail, and in fact will have no problem blowing $Xbillion of taxpayer money to bail them out

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[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Local and self controled AI has some really cool applications. When I can afford it, replacing my home security cameras with something that stays local and not sent to the cloud is on my list of things to do. When I do that having a local AI do image recognition and tying it into my home assistant setup will be a cool project.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yeah you need hardware for that. They're making it so we can't get hardware and we can't self-host.

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[–] morto@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago

There's the ai that works well, has many useful applications and reasonable hardware requirements, and there's the generative ai fucking everything and not giving us a proportional return in usefulness

[–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 month ago

Do it! It's super easy with Frigate addon for home assistant. There's nice blueprints to handle the mobile notifications when you are out.

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[–] phx@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I haven't yet seen where use of AI hasn't made things worse.

  • Agents: Every instance of AI for "customer service" I've run into basically just closed cases for invalid reasons, spouted bullshit, and was used to block interacting with a real human, trapping users in infinite loops (thanks eBay) or disconnecting on them (thanks PayPal)

  • Security: M365 seems to be relying heavily on this now, which means that the same phishing email which was successfully blocked last week will randomly get through a few times this week for no apparent reason

*Coding: sometimes useful, but also points to do stuff like reference functions that don't actually exist in the API/language being used

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They already planned and built many data centers by then and will use them. It‘s going to be cloud services all the way. Desktops or even capable phones will be a thing of the past as everyone expects you to source out computing power to a subscription service. We will own nothing. It‘s peak capitalism.

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[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Keep that powder dry for the cheap RAM when the pendulum swings back.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I feel like some sort of scheme will be invented to fuck your average person over when that time comes.

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[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ugly, yes, but also cheap.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago

IDK, a lot of that data center AI hardware is built to self-destruct after a few years. It's going to take time for the factories to retool before we see prices drop back down.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

RAM will be cheap! So will the dollar... Maybe I can get a good deal on upgrades to my server by reclaiming the gold in the contacts?

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[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's not a shortage, it's billionaires hoarding the existing supply.

[–] Virtvirt588@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] NavySqueal@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago

Damn so we really aren't always going to have calculators :'(

[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Watch this not ever really even touch the mobile phone market. The only computer they want you to have access to is the one they fully control...

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago

Might want to keep an eye on !linuxphones@lemmy.ca. It's time we take back control of that computing sector

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Data centers will consume..

No, data centers that are slated to be built say they'll consume. If they don't get built because they run out of funding or the bubble bursts, then they won't consume. They're trying really fucking hard to make fetch happen.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're trying really fucking hard to make fetch happen.

Which is dumb because neofetch, fastfetch, hyfetch, and uwufetch all already exist!

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Yeah, so this is the part where the market regulates itself? Y'know, the part where ultra billionaires just dump money by the boatloads to buy up stuff that everyone needs?

Capitalism will ONLY work if we put hard caps on how much wealth a single person can hoard. Billionaires shouldn't exist. Millionaires shouldn't exist. There is no need for them and there is no human right somewhere that says that you really van become one.

Any wealth over 1 million should be taxed 100%, doesn't matter the country.

With that, we can say goodbye to hundreds of problems that plague the world, including this one

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This platform is so incredibly out of touch with reality, especially the more left leaning side of things.

A millionaire these days just means you've paid off your mortgage and have a decent amount put away for retirement.

[–] ScientifficDoggo@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I only half agree with this assessment. Most million dollar homes are million dollar homes due to billionaires and firms poaching housing from actual families and driving up prices.

Idk WHERE we draw the line, but I absolutely say we start culling from the top and see where we land.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The housing market is effed in a lot of places, no argument from me on that. But stringing up someone with a nest egg for their retirement isn't the solution.

[–] ScientifficDoggo@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

Oh, for sure, but I'd bet my goat that the problem would go away WELL before people started looking at single family homes actually owned by families.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

A million ain’t what it used to be. You want to retire so you need to invest. You don’t want to pass laws that make that impossible.

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[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Any middle-class person who puts their mind to it will become a millionaire. It involves living below your means, not buying cars constantly, and investing your money for decades. I can't stress enough how big of a difference those things make.

A huge portion of retirees are millionaires because they were responsible and didn't blow all their money.

Millionaires shouldn’t exist.

Why would you want responsible, middle-class retirees to blow their money instead? Why would you force them into a situation where they have to rely on others in their retirement rather than living comfortably off their own hard work?

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

...What forces defend these datacenters? Could a platoon of motivated civilians armed with pump action shotguns carry all the RAM out of one?

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (14 children)

They use a different kind of RAM.

It's the capacity to make RAM and the materials required to make RAM that is going to datacenters.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They use a different kind of RAM.

I probably got an adapter lying around somewhere

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's more is they use HBM RAM, which is very complicated to build and has a much lower yield than the much-cheaper-to-make consumer ram.

So, not only are they dedicating all of their resources to billionaire assholes with fantasies of mind control over the masses, but they're also wasting much more materials and energy to make this stupid ram.

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[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No but anyone with a a cheap vintage military rifle with 2000 yard/meter iron sights could reek havoc by lobbing a few bullets at a data center like a mortar from extreme range. Probable wouldn't do any critical damage but eventually someone would realize that those loud cracks are bullets and they would have to evacuate every time, forensic teams would have to come in a scour the entire place for bullet fragments and impacts. It would be a massive expensive pain in the ass. The security and insurance cost would be insane. That might put some cold water on the market.

They would have to start building these things inside the restricted Nevada test range if enough people took up this new hobby.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You remember a few years ago when some random town in North Carolina made the national news because some Proud Boys shot out the substation because there was a drag show at a local downtown theater?

I'm from there.

What I learned in those four days without refrigeration or air conditioning is that substations aren't bulletproof.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yep, I'm from NC too. When shit gets real it's going to be normal to not have water, power, cellphones and internet because we sold all of our critical infrastructure to parasites who extort us but won't spend a dime on redundancy. People really underestimate how quickly and easily this country could be shut down when the critical boiling point is reached.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hold on while I use AI to create an image of a dog in a funny hat!

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[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Only good LLM is a deleted LLM, same goes for capitalists.

[–] Bababasti@feddit.org 11 points 1 month ago
rm -rf capitalism/
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Big brands already said Fuck you consumer, we're gonna sell to the big boys.
It only saddens me that when the AI bubble bursts people will still buy stuff from the likes of Micron when they start supplying the plebes again.

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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Except there are zero contracts in place to actually build those data centers, nor is there enough power generated to run them. I really wish tech journalists would do the background to determine if what these documented liars are saying is even possible, never mind likely.

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[–] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can we start to burn serverhalls?

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[–] GMac@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Can we all buy cheap hardware when the bubble bursts and the billionaires decide not to pay the electricity bills for these ridiculous datacentres?

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 16 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Unlike with the GPU shortage, where the cryptomining gpus could be used by regular consumers, the datacenter ram and so on is not usable on personal computers. It is all going to be e-waste, and we will still have a shortage after the bubble burst.

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