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Hi all, sorry if I post this the wrong place.

I have a laptop running mint with qtile which sometimes freezes. To the point where nothing responds and I need to kill it. I've tried: sudo journalctl But I don't get any information which helps me.

Can anyone help to debug it?

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[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 minutes ago

To the point where nothing responds and I need to kill it.

What about ctrl-alt-F3?

[–] Adam_Crock@lemmy.world 1 points 41 minutes ago

I am assuming the problem is your ram runs out of memory. And Linux kernel's OOM killer is too slow and doesn't kill processes earlier. You have two options to try:

  • install earlyoom to kill processes earlier so the laptop doesn't freeze
  • add zram to virtually double your ram

or you can use both options to get the best of you laptop

[–] user28282912@piefed.social 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I would look at these things first.

  1. Try another DE, something like XFCE. See if the problem persists. Sometimes swapping compositors or display managers can help too.
  2. Run memtest. Failing memory can definitely cause lock-ups.
  3. Lastly I'd look at graphics drivers. If you're running Nvidia, switch from nouveau to the proprietary driver or vice-versa and see if that helps.
[–] drillepind42@feddit.dk 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Great idea. I will try some time with XFCE. One of the challenges is that I don't know how to trigger the crash, and sometimes it can be days, other times multiple times within an hour.

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 6 points 16 hours ago

Boot memtest

Leave it to do it's thing overnight. That will at least check for badly failing RAM.

I've run this on machines that I thought were ok, only to find... they weren't.

[–] notthebees@reddthat.com 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

It might not be a bad idea having btop with like 100ms refresh. Watch it while using it and see what the thermals are as everyone is suggesting. Or if any other cpu thing is being weird. I've had weird freezes before due to lack of power. Or being on a screwed up power plan.

What laptop is it?

[–] drillepind42@feddit.dk 1 points 15 hours ago

I'll try to monitor the temperature more closely, but nothing suggest that anything is wrong (doesn't feel hot, and the freeze can happen without doing anything intensive).

It's a tuxedo laptop.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Can you check

/var/log/syslog ?

Something like:

tail -f /var/log/syslog may help out.

That file usually has the answers. Its just hard to find the exact lines.

[–] drillepind42@feddit.dk 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

There are an absurd amount of this:

2026-02-06T01:41:23.698044+01:00 tuxedo rtkit-daemon[46122]: Warning: Reached burst limit for user '1000', denying request.
2026-02-06T01:41:23.909775+01:00 tuxedo rtkit-daemon[46122]: Supervising 1 threads of 1 processes of 1 users.
2026-02-06T01:41:23.910579+01:00 tuxedo rtkit-daemon[46122]: Supervising 1 threads of 1 processes of 1 users.
2026-02-06T01:41:23.913096+01:00 tuxedo rtkit-daemon[46122]: Warning: Reached burst limit for user '1000', denying request.
2026-02-06T01:41:24.124958+01:00 tuxedo rtkit-daemon[46122]: Supervising 1 threads of 1 processes of 1 users.
2026-02-06T01:41:24.125834+01:00 tuxedo rtkit-daemon[46122]: Supervising 1 threads of 1 processes of 1 users.
2026-02-06T01:41:24.128451+01:00 tuxedo rtkit-daemon[46122]: Successfully made thread 58065 of process 58064 owned by '1000' RT at priority 20.
2026-02-06T01:41:24.128489+01:00 tuxedo rtkit-daemon[46122]: Supervising 2 threads of 2 processes of 1 users.

That seems to be there all the time, and also before crashing/freezing

[–] user28282912@piefed.social 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If your machine is a Tuxedo laptop, this thread might interest you. Seems as though this user was hitting thermal limits and their laptop would freeze/poweroff to keep from dying.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

+1 to this line on inquiry.

When I've managed to get a modern Linux desktop to freeze, I've had a bad power supply, or heat issues, each time.

[–] drillepind42@feddit.dk 2 points 13 hours ago

Interesting that the power supply might be the problem. Never thought about that. Sounds like a nightmare to come to that conclusion.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 2 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Since you specifically mention qtile you should undo your customizations and see if that fixes your problem?

If not, you should look at the journal after reboot:

journalctl -b

But you'll need to filter it.

Try journalctl -b | grep -v rtkit-daemon, which will remove the masses of entries you bemoaned in another comment (AFAICS all syslog entries should also be in the journal anyhow).

Very important:
Please make note of when the problem happened, and if your journal entries even go that far in time.

[–] drillepind42@feddit.dk 1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

journalctl -b | grep -v rtkit-daemon

I just got the following freeze that it recovered from by itself (rarely happens). After filtering the log a bit I get the following from around the time it happened.

Feb 07 00:00:58 tuxedo systemd[1]: Starting systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service - Cleanup of Temporary Directories...
Feb 07 00:00:58 tuxedo systemd[1]: systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service: Deactivated successfully.
Feb 07 00:00:58 tuxedo systemd[1]: Finished systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service - Cleanup of Temporary Directories.
Feb 07 00:00:58 tuxedo systemd[1]: run-credentials-systemd\x2dtmpfiles\x2dclean.service.mount: Deactivated successfully.
Feb 07 00:58:35 tuxedo kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring gfx_0.0.0 timeout, signaled seq=780519, emitted seq=780521
Feb 07 00:58:35 tuxedo kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Process information: process floorp pid 1548 thread floorp:cs0 pid 1606
Feb 07 00:58:35 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: GPU reset begin!
Feb 07 00:58:35 tuxedo kernel: [drm:mes_v11_0_submit_pkt_and_poll_completion.constprop.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* MES failed to response msg=3
Feb 07 00:58:35 tuxedo kernel: [drm:amdgpu_mes_unmap_legacy_queue [amdgpu]] *ERROR* failed to unmap legacy queue
Feb 07 00:58:35 tuxedo kernel: [drm:mes_v11_0_submit_pkt_and_poll_completion.constprop.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* MES failed to response msg=3
Feb 07 00:58:35 tuxedo kernel: [drm:amdgpu_mes_unmap_legacy_queue [amdgpu]] *ERROR* failed to unmap legacy queue
Feb 07 00:58:36 tuxedo kernel: [drm:mes_v11_0_submit_pkt_and_poll_completion.constprop.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* MES failed to response msg=3
Feb 07 00:58:36 tuxedo kernel: [drm:amdgpu_mes_unmap_legacy_queue [amdgpu]] *ERROR* failed to unmap legacy queue
Feb 07 00:58:36 tuxedo kernel: [drm:mes_v11_0_submit_pkt_and_poll_completion.constprop.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* MES failed to response msg=3
Feb 07 00:58:36 tuxedo kernel: [drm:amdgpu_mes_unmap_legacy_queue [amdgpu]] *ERROR* failed to unmap legacy queue
Feb 07 00:58:36 tuxedo kernel: [drm:mes_v11_0_submit_pkt_and_poll_completion.constprop.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* MES failed to response msg=3
Feb 07 00:58:36 tuxedo kernel: [drm:amdgpu_mes_unmap_legacy_queue [amdgpu]] *ERROR* failed to unmap legacy queue
Feb 07 00:58:36 tuxedo kernel: [drm:mes_v11_0_submit_pkt_and_poll_completion.constprop.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* MES failed to response msg=3
Feb 07 00:58:36 tuxedo kernel: [drm:amdgpu_mes_unmap_legacy_queue [amdgpu]] *ERROR* failed to unmap legacy queue
Feb 07 00:58:36 tuxedo kernel: [drm:mes_v11_0_submit_pkt_and_poll_completion.constprop.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* MES failed to response msg=3
Feb 07 00:58:36 tuxedo kernel: [drm:amdgpu_mes_unmap_legacy_queue [amdgpu]] *ERROR* failed to unmap legacy queue
Feb 07 00:58:36 tuxedo kernel: [drm:mes_v11_0_submit_pkt_and_poll_completion.constprop.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* MES failed to response msg=3
Feb 07 00:58:36 tuxedo kernel: [drm:amdgpu_mes_unmap_legacy_queue [amdgpu]] *ERROR* failed to unmap legacy queue
Feb 07 00:58:36 tuxedo kernel: [drm:mes_v11_0_submit_pkt_and_poll_completion.constprop.0 [amdgpu]] *ERROR* MES failed to response msg=3
Feb 07 00:58:36 tuxedo kernel: [drm:amdgpu_mes_unmap_legacy_queue [amdgpu]] *ERROR* failed to unmap legacy queue
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm:gfx_v11_0_hw_fini [amdgpu]] *ERROR* failed to halt cp gfx
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: MODE2 reset
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: GPU reset succeeded, trying to resume
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] PCIE GART of 512M enabled (table at 0x000000801FD00000).
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: SMU is resuming...
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: SMU is resumed successfully!
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] DMUB hardware initialized: version=0x08000500
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] DPIA AUX failed on 0x600(1), error 7
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] DPIA AUX failed on 0x600(1), error 7
...
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] DPIA AUX failed on 0x600(1), error 7
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] DPIA AUX failed on 0x600(1), error 7
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] kiq ring mec 3 pipe 1 q 0
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] VCN decode and encode initialized successfully(under DPG Mode).
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: [drm:jpeg_v4_0_hw_init [amdgpu]] JPEG decode initialized successfully.
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: ring gfx_0.0.0 uses VM inv eng 0 on hub 0
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: ring comp_1.0.0 uses VM inv eng 1 on hub 0
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: ring comp_1.1.0 uses VM inv eng 4 on hub 0
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: ring comp_1.2.0 uses VM inv eng 6 on hub 0
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: ring comp_1.3.0 uses VM inv eng 7 on hub 0
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: ring comp_1.0.1 uses VM inv eng 8 on hub 0
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: ring comp_1.1.1 uses VM inv eng 9 on hub 0
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: ring comp_1.2.1 uses VM inv eng 10 on hub 0
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: ring comp_1.3.1 uses VM inv eng 11 on hub 0
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: ring sdma0 uses VM inv eng 12 on hub 0
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: ring vcn_unified_0 uses VM inv eng 0 on hub 1
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: ring jpeg_dec uses VM inv eng 1 on hub 1
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: ring mes_kiq_3.1.0 uses VM inv eng 13 on hub 0
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: recover vram bo from shadow start
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: recover vram bo from shadow done
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] ring gfx_32775.1.1 was added
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] ring compute_32775.2.2 was added
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] ring sdma_32775.3.3 was added
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] ring gfx_32775.1.1 test pass
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] ring gfx_32775.1.1 ib test pass
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] ring compute_32775.2.2 test pass
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] ring compute_32775.2.2 ib test pass
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] ring sdma_32775.3.3 test pass
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: [drm] ring sdma_32775.3.3 ib test pass
Feb 07 00:58:37 tuxedo kernel: amdgpu 0000:65:00.0: amdgpu: GPU reset(2) succeeded!
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[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Nice, that looks pretty obvious.

In addition to the other reply, you should search around your distro* having problems with (certain) AMD gpus; maybe all you need is a backported kernel.

* I don't think you ever mentioned. If it's Ubuntu-based, search for Ubuntu.

[–] drillepind42@feddit.dk 1 points 4 hours ago

I use linux mint debian edition (LMDE)

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 12 hours ago

Looks like the chipset/graphics driver is crashing. That can be because of the driver or the hardware.

It will be hard to diagnose, but you can search for the most detailed of those log lines together with your laptop model and see if that yields anything. There problem is that it's never possible to know whether you have a software issue or a hardware issue that is exposed by particular software.

You can try installing a completely different os (i.e windows) to see if the same problem occurs - if it does you can be fairly sure it's hardware.

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 3 points 19 hours ago

Also, add -r to show the log in reverse. If you want to look at previous boots other than the last you can specify like so journalctl -b -2 -r

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Can you ctl+alt+4 to another terminal? Could you ssh from another machine?

[–] drillepind42@feddit.dk 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

No, I can't access another tty during a freeze, unfortunately.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 5 points 18 hours ago

No, I can't access another tty during a freeze, unfortunately.

That's may be a hint!

The only times I've had the desktop freeze on Linux and the alternate terminals fail to respond, I had a hardware issue.

In one case, I was on a Raspberry Pi, and my power supply was not delivering clean enough power for the board.

In another case, my fan wasn't connected properly and the motherboard was overheating.

[–] unwillingsomnambulist@midwest.social 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What are the machine’s specs? I had a similar issue on a Ryzen 5 3500U laptop before, but more recent kernels (6.8+) don’t exhibit that behavior.

[–] jcarax@beehaw.org 1 points 1 hour ago

I was thinking the same with my 7840u. Could try something a bit more cutting edge than Mint, though I will admit I have no idea how up to date they keep the kernel these days. Though if they live boot, they're removing the SSD and likely qtile from the equation, so it's a bit tricky to isolate.

[–] thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It might also be overheating. If you can monitor the temperature it might give you a clue.

[–] drillepind42@feddit.dk 2 points 20 hours ago

I checked that at some point, and I don't think that was the case, although sometimes during a crash the fans starts going crazy.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 21 hours ago

maybe the ram gets full?

i'd have htop and dmesg -w running visibly and see if there's any issue showing on the screen as it freezes