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If you were to ask me a year ago I'd tell you that HDD's would be the next dead storage medium but now SSD's cost more then I spent on my rig and HDD's are pushing 140 TB's
Ya hmar
And how much will that cost? Sounds like something fantastic for my Jellyfin server. I’ll have all the 4k HDR I can get my hands on.
Going by the usual trends of $20+/tb, I'd say. fuckin expensive
If you have to ask, you can't afford it 😭
Who's Barry Badrinath?
Does the increased density mean that the speed also goes up? It would be nice if a 7200 RPM drive could finally saturate SATA3 bandwidth.
Linear density could also boost throughout. Multiple actuators also exist.
No.
Whats the point when the prices for 4-8TB disks are stable the last 5 years? (I think that they are getting higher even...)
Yep. It's absurd. Who spends that much on a 4TB?
The point is the need for more and more data storage is never going to stop.
The point is that 8TB are too small, and not enough for my anime.
If the price per TB is stable you just buy 2 or 3 disks. It used to be that you buy one disk because by the time you needed more space the price per TB would be dropped a lot (halved even).
My NAS has a limited number of bays, so buying more low-storage disks isn't a great option.
"Anime"
Retaining that much detail on tentacles takes some drive space
Okay. I want total honesty here. How many of you could actually fill that thing up?
No sweat, try mirroring a private tracker and you'll very quickly run out lol. You need a couple of petabytes worth.
The real problem is the price of HDDs not going down due to lower production in light of SSDs.
I fully expect WD to drop this as some stupidly expensive SAS drives that almost no consumer will buy. They should at least apply the dual heads for speed tech so we get faster HDDs for the same price.
Archive.org, Anna's archive, Jan 6 footage, Epstein files, there's plenty to back up.
With useful stuff? Never. With random bullshit I think might be useful some day if only I find the time? Easy
... or be able to backup it?
I remember Mac OS X having an issue with its mail app awhile back that would create massive log files continuously that would keep generating until they filled the entire drive. You would have to boot to a recovery partition or such because the OS partition wouldn't have enough room to expand/boot and remove them and fix the issue.
Imagine having 130 terabytes of invisible log files
Okay cool, cool, so does this mean ridiculous data centers will use these things, and then can I get another 4TB RED for my NAS so I can fit my whole life on a mirrored total of 8TB without paying 8x what it's worth, please?
Thaaaaanks...
8TB? That’s my ideal RAM configuration lol. ;-)
If not joking, what would you want a huge amount of ram for on a server?
Running more multi box copies of gw2
Is there a Lemmy community for trading surplus hardware yet?
I have a pile of HDDs and servers that I no longer use. I've transitioned almost all mine to 20tb+. I might have 8 or 10 4tb REDs laying around. They're old, probably have thousands of power on hours in the smart data though.
Question: Are failures due to issues on a specific platter? Meaning, could a ZRAID theoretically use specific platters as a way to replicate data and not require 140TB of resilvering on a failure?
@Fmstrat @veeesix Since there's two very diffrent questions there.. The first, "where do the failures happen?": anywhere. It could be the controller dying (in which case the platters themselves are fine if you replace the board, but otherwise the whole thing is toast). It could be the head breaking. It could be issues with a specific platter. It could be something that affects _all_ the platters (like dust getting inside the sealed area). So basically, it very much depends.
@Fmstrat @veeesix The second, could you do raid across specific platters - yes and no. The drive firmware specifically hides the details of the underlying platter layout. But if you targeted a specific model, you could probably hack something together that would do raid across the platters. But given the answer to the first question, why would you?
IIRC, HDDs have some reserved sectors in case some go bad. But in practice, once you start having faulty sectors it's usually a sign that the drive is dying and you should replace it ASAP.
I think if you know drive topology you can technically create partitions on platter level, but I don't really see a reason why you'd do it. If the drive is dying you need to resilver the entire drive's content to a new disk anyway.
with optimizations that significantly increase HDD performance for the AI and cloud era
Can somebody do anything with a normal consumer in mind these days? 😭