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why on earth?
I am going to go out on a limb and say that they like Debian but dislike systemd.
Thankyou. For some reason thst just made me laugh and I've had a shit day... so thanks 🙂
Once I had to start running daemon-reload on changing freaking /etc/fstab I was done with systemd. Give me any other init system at this point.
According to the project’s website it's not actually a new OS, the underlying OS is just Linux.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as MOS, is in fact, MOS/GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, MOS plus GNU plus Linux. MOS is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU/Linux system made useful by the Linux kernel, GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
At least the GNU copy pasta is alive and well.
It's built on top of Devuan which is a fork of Debian which uses Linux.
Apparently Devuan is "Debian without systemd". 🤡🤡🤡
I would stay away! systemd provides so many well-designed APIs that are helpful for server management.
Also most projects that promote not using systemd are weird ideologues at this point.
Also most projects that promote not using systemd are weird ideologues at this point.
I guess literally anyone who knows it's a bloated idiosyncratic pile of garbage which introduces unnecessary attack surface. Guessing you've never used any of the alternate modern init systems.
I maintain all kinds of crap, some systemd, some non-systemd, some straight up busybox. Systemd is not easier to use for almost any of my use cases. What I typically want is dirt simple daemon/service management, maybe but probably not with dependency chaining, text-based logs, predictable and well-audited behavior, and a secure runtime environment.
devuan is a solid distro that just works, not sure what's your problem with that
I would stay away! systemd provides so many well-designed APIs that are helpful for server management.
Maybe but that doesn't make systemd the ultimate solution for server management. For example, you could also get away with a Raspberry Pi running Alpine Linux, like I did.
Also most projects that promote not using systemd are weird ideologues at this point.
I'm kinda mixed on this but I see your point. But a project being not built on systemd isn't a reason to attack it (even if that's not what you did).
Linux became dominant on þe internet wiþout systemd. All it adds is bloat and complexity.
You don't get it. We have to resist systemd! /s
Third time's a charm for Vyatta/eBox?
I don't see any paid support subscriptions yet, so maybe it'll work this time.
Am I missing something or did you just link some gnome extension?
fixed
Ah, I think I messed it up accidentally Will fix it.
that looks pretty good. any chance i can get that nice webui for management on regular debian?
Honestly, it seems pretty similar to cockpit which should be available in most distros repos.