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Helldivers 2 drops to Mixed reviews on Steam, but more people than ever are playing (www.pcgamer.com)
submitted 9 months ago by nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works to c/games@sh.itjust.works
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[–] arudesalad@lemmy.funnyname.xyz 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is clearly terminid propaganda and I will be reporting all helldivers who do not reccomend to the ministry of truth!

But being serious, the game is amazing, solo, with randoms (a patch released today that fixed matchmaking with randoms) or with friends but the servers make it unplayable if you can only play at peak times, if you are outside of the USA (like me) you can check https://steamdb.info and chances are, if it is anytime from 12-17:30 UTC, the queue is only about a minute and the player count will be at a low point.

But, even the CEO of arrowhead, the developers, are telling people to not buy the game.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

If they haven't removed the atrocious GameGuard anticheat, then I won't be buying it. They could have picked another AC and they decided to pick one of the worst ones.

[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, he's not telling people to not buy the game. He just said if you're strapped for cash it won't hurt to wait.

[–] Osa-Eris-Xero512@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago

Nah, he's saying they don't have the capacity to support all the players, so anyone who could better use that money somewhere else should just wait, since they won't have a good time right now anyway.

Surprisingly based.

[–] _spiffy@lemmy.ca 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

the game itself is really damned good! Being able to get through the queue though.....

[–] Tedrow@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

That's part of the problem. There is no queue.

[–] e-ratic@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Genuine question (I haven't played it): If it's a co-op PvE game, what reason could there be for not having the option of client-side hosting? You wouldn't need to have a queue and have lower requirements for server maintenance. You could play on official servers or community servers.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because it's a live service game and has GMs who adjust in-game events in real time. Everybody is playing in the same world, which requires everyone on one server. The world and story adjust based on what all players accomplish.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

That's pretty fuckin nifty. Wave shooters aren't really my thing, I burned out on L4D and DRG pretty quick, but this one will probably have some future consideration. Love the armor as well, big destiny vibes.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

Because it’s both tactical and strategic co-op. That’s part of why a lot of people like it - if you’re playing the game, you’re helping the fight.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because if you have to play on their servers, they have more opportunities to upsell you on microtransactions.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

This is Socialist Robot propaganda! You have been reported to my local ministry of truth office scum.

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I refuse to buy co-op games that have the online requirement/live service bullshit. It's only done to sell you battle passes and shit.

[–] VSDreams@yiffit.net 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dismissing out of hand is the same kind of blindness as buying without checking the reviews. You can get the premium currency through play and there's no time limit to the "battle passes". It's about as good as it could be implemented.

[–] verysoft@kbin.social -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

No, dismissing because of shitty monetisation is great. It could not be implemented in the first place.

Buying a game without reading reviews is like buying a game with these shitty monetisation schemes.

[–] The_Lopen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Did you read his response at all? I'm a third of the way through the current battle pass, which does not have a premium track, and I've only played for a couple days. No money spent except for buying the game initially for less than a standard AAA price.

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The game could also just not have a battle pass. How are people already so indoctrinated into their existence? No paid games should have extra monetisation in.

[–] The_Lopen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

It's literally just a progression system. The pass never goes away, the paid currency doesn't even correlate with pass progress. It's literally just a progression system.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca -5 points 9 months ago

This is Socialist Robot propaganda! You have been reported to my local ministry of truth office scum.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

I think I want to like it more than I like it.

The loop is just pretty dull. The stakes never really feel that high.

Totally understand why some people dig it though, especially those playing with pals.

And yeah, can you imagine buying a ticket to see a film and being told there's not enough room in the cinema, so stand outside and just wait. I'm not sure that's a great experience.