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[–] kittykillinit@lemy.lol 3 points 23 hours ago

I'm so glad companies have enough excessive funds to use that money against me.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

In Florida I'm calling out FPL the local power company.

You would think in Florida having solar panels is a no brainer, but FPL fought it for years.

FPL successfully lobbied to have insurance companies deny coverage if panels are installed on a roof. You can't get windstorm insurance with panels unless you paythrought the nose.

FPL successfully lobbied to force homeowners with powerwalls and panels to take out a 1 million dollar insurance policy payable to FPL in case there's an accident that damages the grid....an accident that has never happened, ever.

FPL then has the gall to advertise solar energy and all the benefits, you can sign up for solar power provided by FPL for a slight increase in your bill to help the environment.

Mother fucking FPL

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 days ago

Capitalism. Anyone who tries not to buy my shit is my enemy.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait, solar panels are hard to use? When did they fuck that up?

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Misleading name. These are basically all-in-one solar panels. It is much better to separate out inverters since they are scarce and expensive.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 100 points 2 days ago (5 children)

plug a solar panel into a large battery backup, plug the major appliances into that.

Utility companies don't need to know shit.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 25 points 2 days ago (12 children)

That's what I have. Basically a small-ish parallel electrical system that runs critical loads like a mini split, refrigerator, water heater, etc. And a small UPS for modem/server.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

These can output 1800W, 1100Wh, Starts at CAD$700 then you just pay more for more storage for bigger systems.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Those are neat for camping or if the power goes out for the afternoon. I use mine mostly for my telescope.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

That's a very small system that won't power much at all. Additionally I don't recommend these "all in one" systems, as they're typically more expensive, not as good, nor are they modular or repairable. Those are really if you need a "mobile" system.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 167 points 3 days ago (48 children)

I mean, it makes sense to me that consumers can't be pumping energy into the grid with no way to cut it off, but I'm not a lineman or some sort of civil engineer or whatever.

But if I were a lawmaker, I'd be on the phone with the Germans, who have 1.2M of these connected, and figuring out if and how they're doing it safely. But lawmakers seem to be somehow incapable of reaching out to people who know fuck all about anything.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 122 points 3 days ago (134 children)

The microinverters stop feeding in if grid goes down. So it's safe.

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[–] SrMono@feddit.org 23 points 3 days ago (6 children)

They are commonly used in many parts of Europe.

If you drop some Tariff percentages, we might be willing to advise.

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[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 87 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Why don't we just change the revenue model for power companies. I understand they need money to maintain the infrastructure and pay employees. If power generation becomes so cheap that it can't sustain the company then don't rely on that for revenue. I'd rather pay a flat rate for the infrastructure and operating costs than a fluctuating generation charge. And public utilities should not be for profit.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Many places already do charge a “line charge” if you have solar power and use little or no utility company power. You pay for being hooked up to the grid even if you barely use it.

[–] Enekk@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is how it works in my area. I pay about $12/mo in fees, the rest is handled by solar. They don't pay me for excess solar, instead I get credit (in kWh, not dollars, thankfully) for it and any electricity I use at night or in the winter comes from that pool. Essentially, it makes the power company a big battery for me.

[–] TrumpetX@programming.dev 9 points 2 days ago

This. This is the way. It solves this problem completely, but utilities somehow refuse it. It's almost like their argument is not in good faith ...

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 days ago

When I got solar panels on my previous home there was a $5 a month line charge. That when went up to $8 the next year, then $10, then closer to $20. The power company (Duke Energy in case anyway wants to the shitty company's name) was determined to make it as painful as possible for people to use Solar. They were also apparently responsible for pushing to get it illegal in that area to go "off grid" and to have a cap on the amount of solar power a home could generate. At now point did these line changes stop them from raising the normal power usage rates mind you, this was just an extra "fuck you" from them.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 52 points 2 days ago (5 children)

If your business is critical for modern human living, it should be non-profit. It should be guided by the best management plan of the time, debated and approved by the majority of shareholders. It should open its books and stay open.

Really, it should be government.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

May I introduce you to the concept of 'natural monopoly'.

Basically most natural monopolies (power, phone lines, roads etc) in most places were historically run by governments (because it's bloody sensible) until the neoliberal movement in the 80s privatized them because 'private enterprise is more efficient' (at extracting tax dollars as it turned out) and to balance a few budgets.

Should definitely be ruled a failed experiment and rolled back.

[–] dovahking@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hold on! You're telling me every common utility is run by corpos in America? I thought it was limited to only telecom.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It varies by state, but a large majority are.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

So you have a government organization that regulates a private company in most cases. Usually there is a layer of government in there, but profits are private.

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[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My power company is a co-op. They have long term contracts with various providers, so my power bill doesn't fluctuate much on short term news.

At the end of every year, we get a dividend check in the mail for any excess profit.

Pretty sure all utilities should work that way.

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