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[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 40 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Does anyone have that Wolfenstein meme of the two klansmen and a nazi soldier talking, and the caption is something like "two American liberals talking before being interrupted by a european social democrat?" I can't find it

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yooo bespoke meme thank you

[–] culprit@lemmy.ml 32 points 3 weeks ago

The Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) historically opposed the Communist Party of Germany (KPD) due to ideological differences, particularly regarding the approach to socialism and the use of revolutionary tactics.

I wonder how that worked out. Oh, right.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Progressive Politics fans when they see US candidates presenting an alternative to the status quo and giving people something to hope for:

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 14 points 3 weeks ago

Content like this is why I come here.

[–] vathecka@lemmy.radio 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

What does this even mean? do you think that welfare is fascist?

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

The meme is about how socialdemocrats entire ideology is built upon “reforming” capitalism by implementing a welfare state to more evenly spread the profits of the super exploitation of the periphery. When those profits dry up so too does the welfare state which inevitably pushes them right or left to deal with the heightened contradictions. The meme is pointing out the unfortunate pattern of it almost always ending in a rightward shift (due to many factors). (It is also possibly a reference to the SPD and how them unleashing the freikorps on the KPD directly helped bring Hitler to power)

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago

socialdemocrats entire ideology is built upon “reforming” capitalism by implementing a welfare state to more evenly spread the profits of the super exploitation of the periphery.

when put like this, social democracy is really the peak of "half of slaveowners should be women!" ideology lol

[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (19 children)

Thank you for breaking this down. Would it be fair to say that social democracy on a national scale can still be imperialist but social democracy on a global scale would actually be a good thing? I guess when I see social democracy equated with fascism it leaves me wondering what is actually the better path.

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

No. Social democracy needs superprofits from the periphery to fund the core. Capitalism requires exploitation to function. If every nation is the core, who gets exploited? The surplus value does not exist. When accumulation slows, the bourgeoisie abandons reform. They choose fascism to protect property. The SPD proved this when they sided with reactionaries against workers. Reformism tries to manage a system built on violence. It cannot work globally because the economic base forbids it. The only path is revolution. Seize the means of production. End the imperialist chain.

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[–] SockOlm@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

Social democracy is the left wing of fascism.

The European welfare state is built upon the exploitation of the global south and has historically always led to fascist dictatorahips when this system of exploitation eventually collapses in on itself.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Welfare in nordic style social democracies is paid for via exploiting the global south, protecting capitalist superprofits while also throwing the domestic working classes a bone in the form of free healthcare and other nice things. Welfare isn't fascist, it's possible to provide good welfare without relying on imperialism, you just have to become socialist.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I was going to argue against this, but then you're right. There has been regulatory capture of socdems as they became neoliberals; who keep chasing the magical "centrist" unicorn. But in reality, who they are trying to appease are the property owning base who want their property value to keep going up and up, at the expense of the youths, families and homeless, and to appease rich donors.

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