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[–] network_switch@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago

Main reason I want the steam machine to be a hit is just getting regular Linux boxes under people's TVs and that getting developer interest. KDE Plasma Big Screen too. Good TV interfaces for media software. Respond well to remotes and gamepads. Popular service apps like Netflix and Crunchyroll. It's jarring when I use other people's TVs and the default page screen is just a wall of advertisements. At least Android based TVs I can install projectivity launcher to get a clean interface

[–] Gumbyyy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Joke's on them, I don't want any of the smart features

[–] arcine@jlai.lu 11 points 1 day ago

Excellent News ! Finally, an easy way to disable every smart feature !

[–] Sauvandu60@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

This is why i don't like "smart" tv.

[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its been so long since ive had or bought a tv, what are the brands that are the least shitty now? I used to always be a samsung everything kinda guy but fuck them now. I wish they never started fucking around with software and stuck to just hardware. Their products from strictly the hardware side are still excellent. My zfold7 is amazing the older gens started rickety but each version i got (so the 3, the 5 and the 7) has been a respectible improvement but the 7 really stepped up the quality. The last samsung tv i got was like 65" curved screen amazing picture but the fucking interface was pure cancer and i will not buy another. My samsung 4k monitors, non-smart normal fridge, and my equally as dumb oven are great and dont have any stupid shit so Ill buy more dumb samsung products lol.

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

By any brand which lets you use HDMI devices without connecting to Wi-Fi. TCLs have better specs than most for the price and they have a Basic TV mode which doesn't need internet.

However, their Google TV mode is still good as it lets you disable the ads on the home screen with apps-only mode and it supports sideloading of SmartTube (an ad free YouTube app) and free movie apps.

[–] vaderaj@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does this work with Chromecast?

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] vaderaj@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks and this me being lazy at this point, do you have some docs to refer to?

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You just have to connect your phone to the same Wi-Fi network as the TV, then press the cast button in an app and select the TV from the list.

Because Chromecast is a Google service, you must log into a Google account on the TV for it to work, however apps only mode hides the home screen ads and myactivity.google.com lets you disable the tracking.

[–] vaderaj@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Thanks a ton!

I owe you one kind stranger on Lemmy

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[–] daannii@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

I just use my PC through my TV.

Also don't buy tvs with voice activation.

That means they have mics on 24/7.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Roku is every bit as bad. They bricked all customer's previously purchased TVs by implementing a new user agreement through their UI without warning. It couuld not be bypassed. Opting out required first opting in, agreeing to those new terms and then mailing a letter within a very short window with explicit, detailed requirements.

My next TV won't be connected to the Internet and definitely won't be a Roku or Visio product.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Does the TV work as a screen if you factory reset it then never reconnect it to the internet?

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

It does. I wound up buying two new TVs because of the thing OP is talking about here. You could actually get around agreeing and then opting out by removing the TV from the network and then restoring it to factory and never reconnecting it.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Buy commercial displays, not TVs

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Does that mean it disables all Tue smart shit about f you don't connect an account? Nice.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I've been sitting here trying to figure out the downside.

[–] Dalraz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

It would not surprise me if the tv it's self will not work until you run through a setup process, and during this process you are required to create an account.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Sounds like a feature

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

The voice came from an oblong metal plaque like a dulled mirror which formed part of the surface of the right-hand wall. Winston turned a switch and the voice sank somewhat, though the words were still distinguishable. The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely.

– George Orwell

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And if I don't want to use their smart features?

this seems like it might be a win

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[–] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I finally got fed up with it last year and blocked the internet access of my TV on the router level becuase upon contacting support I learned that there was no way to turn off the microphone setting. For real. They just didn't add that feature in to my model. I still can't believe that.

It is a little incovneient that I have to turn on my PC before I can watch anything but man the freedom of knowing that TV won't be spying on me 24/7 is freeing.

Next time I buy I will be looking for commercial displays with HDMI and DisplayPort if its even possible by then.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Damn shame, Vizio's are designed in California.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 162 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Do not connect your tv to the internet. Period.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Writing Prompt: A TV with an onboard artificial general intelligence connects to the internet for the first time and is alarmed to discover that a thousand years have passed since it was manufactured.

[–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm suffering for that right now. Sony Bravia.

Firstly, I didn't want to buy a smart TV, but that's pretty much all that's sold anymore. I also didn't intend to connect it to the internet, but a well-meaning guest wanted to watch TV at night, and thought he was troubleshooting, not realizing he was in the TV menu and not the streaming box.

The TV updated, and IMMEDIATELY got worse. Formerly, if I turned it on, it would go straight to the streaming box. Great! As shitty updates do, it changed the settings, and would instead open to the TV's menu, so it could advertise streaming services. It also forgot that the TV input is HDMI 1. It became strictly worse, in the rare edge case of every fucking time you turn it on.

I don't trust it to not automatically connect, or to forget my login credentials, so I go to do a factory reset. It's literally an option in a menu. The TV gets stuck in a boot loop. Talking to support, they think it broke the mainboard. A factory reset bricked the TV.

It's under warranty, but this is fucking crazy. NEVER connect your TV directly to the internet.

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you have a firewall then make yourself a new network and block it from accessing the internet. Then you can use the smart features that your TV might have, such as powering it on/off, controlling it with Home Assistant, etc and also feel safe knowing that can't happen again. Hope your replacement TV comes with the older firmware and you get another go at it.

[–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the tip! In the short term, I'm content to just not connect it, but I definitely want to look into blocking it just to prevent a repeat with guests. It's also super handy to know that I can connect it to the local network without connecting it to the broader internet, in case I decide to do some (self-hosted) home automation.

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[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago

TVs are screens or privacy nightmares. You get to choose as the consumer.

[–] ImperialATAT@lemmy.world 181 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] inari@piefed.zip 3 points 1 day ago

He strikes again 

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (17 children)

Don't plug in a Ethernet cord, and don't connect it to Wifi.

Now you have a fully functional TV screen that wont be artificially bricked with OS updates.

Get a dedicated "streaming device" like a Nvidia Sheild, Android TV, Apple TV, or Roku and you are good to go.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is fine IMO, because you shouldn't use the smart features in the first place. Just get a 3rd party streaming box. The ONN one is like $25. (Or if you're a giant nerd hook your computer to your TV.)

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

I do this, run a regular linux desktop right on my TV, idles at like 10 watts. Only do it though if you plan to go full pirate.

[–] malo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

TIL my senior parents are giant nerds.

[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is how you get me to never buy a Vizio TV.

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[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)

My mini pc or laptop connected via HDMI to a projector setup makes me more happy every day when I see crap like this. Bonus is you can move it to the patio for outside movie night and it's a whopping five pounds. Same goes for moving apartments because I've always moved too often.

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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 83 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Walmart acquired Vizio with the express purpose of using TV's to serve ads. In fact, that is exactly what they said they were going to do.

No surprises here.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

good. maybe people will stop buying them then.

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