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man, just give me a flip phone.

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 215 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Won't be any different. It's just a matter of time before Android goes the same

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 131 points 1 week ago (12 children)

GrapheneOS is Android and declines to introduce that

Not sure when you'll be labelled a terrorist by using a privacy respecting OS though...

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

By the way our corporate dictatorships are speed-running totalitarianism, I'd say before the decade is done. I will choose to be an antifa terrorist before I accept fascism.

This is actually the least invasive form of age verification for Apple users. Apple already has a credit card on file for something like 90+% of the user base.

The alternative the political whore class are promoting is apps individually verifying with a multitude of ~~data brokers~~ "ID providers".

This is the illusion of choice under the surveillance capitalism of corporate dictatorships. Rather than regulate capitalists, the gov colludes with them to exploit and enslave consumers.

[–] detren@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 90 points 1 week ago (27 children)

I call bullshit. Apple fans happily take anything Apple pushes down their throats. Even a $999 monitor stand or a $40 microfiber cloth.

[–] exu@feditown.com 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And a $150 !! or $230 !!!! sock

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[–] kepix@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago (10 children)

bullshit. no they won't. stock android also gonna get age verification, and is considered bad by apple users, plus its a different ecosystem. stop sharing shit articles like this.

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[–] Decipher0771@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I’m dabbling switching to GrapheneOS. Apple was the lesser of (obvious) evils compared to Google, but that’s becoming less true daily.

I don’t think I can make it my primary device yet, still need to de-cloud a bunch of services, but it’s very likely my next device won’t be an iPhone.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 week ago (15 children)

I'm running GrapheneOS since about 2 years now and I'm more than happy.
Didn't had any real issues with it.
Art the start Android Auto didn't work, but it does now - although I don't really use it.

I have Google play service stuff installed, but sandboxed.
And my banking apps work just fine.

Friend of mine made the switch a few months ago and haven't heard of any complaints either.

Can highly recommend it :⁠-⁠)

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[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

iPhone users 🚶‍♂️‍➡️ switching to android

Android users 🚶‍♂️switching to iPhone

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Android users 🚶‍♂️switching to ~~iPhone~~ GrapheneOS

Switching to iPhone would just be objectively worse in literally every way

[–] cimmerian@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I switched to iPhone after being on android since kitkat. Worst decision I made. Basic functions of the device don’t work/crash out. There’s seemingly no global ‘back’. Each app can dictate how back works. So I’ve found myself having to remember which apps use the swipe back feature and which don’t. They brought in the ai autocorrect stuff which completely changes words that I type. The glass ui stuff is horrific. Some text is unreadable due to the transparency effect.

Just terrible times all around. Looking to go to Graphene on my previous pixel phone next…

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[–] Maverick604@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Imagine being so horrible at your job as a “journalist” or an editor or a publication that you would allow an article like this to be written under your name or publication without ever mentioning the fact that age verification is being pushed by governments, not phone and computer companies (they are trying to fight its implementation), and that it is equally coming to ALL platforms (yes, even Linux) – as required by law. If you want to fight this ridiculous age verification shit, petition (and vote out) your government. I would also argue that this author and publication should be permanently blacklisted for purposely publishing this obviously biased and misleading misinformation.

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[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Folks, this is coming from your government. The phone makers want nothing to do with it and are actively fighting it in court as best they can. Switching between phone makers will not help, and is not the right place to put your energy. Address your concerns to your governments.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago (12 children)

The phone makers want your data just as much as the government does. Data is money and power.

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[–] Adam_Crock@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I am more happy than ever with my GrapheneOS phone. Especially after they refused to include age verfication I recommend everyone to switch to grapheneos or any other custom ROM android

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[–] pimpampoom@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol sure, like android is not gonna do the same

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[–] tirateimas@lemmy.pt 30 points 1 week ago

In fact, if they have the know-how, they should switch to something else. Android nowadays isn't much different from iOS, and I'm pretty sure that what was included in iOS will eventually land on Android too.

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago

GrapheneOS baby

Kicked my 15pro

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I will switch to Android

And you think that Google won't implement user tracking? It's literally their reason for existing.

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[–] Steve2734@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why don’t governments force parental responsibilities instead? We wouldn’t need all our data sitting there waiting for the next data breach.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

A bit of a dishonest question, but wouldn't that argument lead to minors being able to buy alcohol "for their parents"? We are now shifting the responsibility to the stores, not the parents.

I have my reasons to think it's not a fair comparison, but I'll like to hear other's.

[–] Steve2734@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So you’d rather have everyone’s data subject to being exposed and your behaviour tracked, as opposed to parents looking after and paying some attention to their kids? Wow.

Giving an iPad at your kids is not good for anyone. It’s easy though.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

No, but it you missed so much what I said the first time I don't think spelling it again will help.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

We've seen parents fail over and over again. Some parents definitely need a helping hand.

[–] beansoup@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because they don't actually care abt kids or the Epstein class would all be in jail and they wouldn't be facilitating the bombing of schools.

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 23 points 1 week ago

iOS doesn't (or at least didn't for a very long time) let you install an app without registration. 99% of those people have their credit card data registered with Apple. Now they are pissed that Apple will asks them to use credit card to confirm they are adults? Hilarious.

[–] RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Yeah but then you'll have a green bubble

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