Verify You Are Human : memes

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago

Who deserves to live in peace and have their needs met?

selects all boxes

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 44 points 5 days ago (1 children)

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 15 points 5 days ago

[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 25 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I used to think how can ppl just stand by while evil men did evil things. But now look at me I'm doing practically nothing.

[–] viov@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

If you want to get things done concent in person and online with various communities getting things done. Talk to people, some will know other groups/organizations you can join up with

Then it comes down to getting to know others in those organizations/groups to then be brainstorming, doing, and collaborating together

We all got this!! Find what you want to focus on then join others that are focused on it. Asking them directly what you can do since they have been in the fight longer than you have (Better when they are a veteran that knows what does and does not work)

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What if you are meant to do something at a future date and you need to stay free and alive to do that?

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The red triangle makes me think of Canadian Tire.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Unfortunately it initially made me think of the red triangle badges in Nazi Germany's concentration and extermination camps.

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Oh no.

[–] culprit@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

The inverted red, pink, purple, black, and blue triangles have all been reclaimed by various remembrance and anti-fascist groups, particularly in Europe. For example, the Association of Persecutees of the Nazi Regime – Federation of Antifascists (VVN-BdA) and other members of the International Federation of Resistance Fighters – Association of Anti-Fascists use the red triangle as part of their emblem.

[–] gray@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Sorry but being brainwashed by propaganda is very human behavior, they are still human

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 days ago

https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's far easier to "brainwash" AI's, their answeralgorrithms are directly programmed in benefit of big corps and gov. Some humans are still capable to reasonize and to think, AI's can't, easy to implant there: if dark skin = than is a enemy to kill, this only works with very stupid persons, like eg. ICE agents or MAGA rednecks.

[–] Rumo161@feddit.org -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I deeply feel the need to opose the crimes committed by Israel. I am also horrifyed how easy people adapt symbols an phrases aimed to harm civilians. Its possible to opose any crime against humanity even though the criminals are not all on one side. Not every enemy oft your enemy should be your friend. A lot of this looks like identy fluffing on the backs of dying people.

NO gods, NO states and NO partriachy.

By deviding we cripple our chances to help each other against the ruling.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

We all really should be mad at our representatives and leaders.

The working class knows no borders.

[+] mech@feddit.org -23 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Dehumanizing others is never OK, even when they're also doing it.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I agree, not for the same zionist sympathesizing reason you do, but because I fucking HATE the trope of brushing off what humans are capable of doing and painting this artificially idealized picture of what humans are "supposed" to be.

You don't get to say those people aren't humans to absolve yourself. You don't get to pick and choose which people you consider "human" to make yourself feel less guilty about being human. You have everything in common with them, as do I. "Oh those people committing unspeakable atrocities weren't acting with humanity!" Shut the FUCK up. If anything, committing unspeakable atrocities against other humans is the most human thing possible. Humans suck. And the sooner we realize that the sooner we can actually start working to meaningfully move past our species' horrific legacy beyond useless lip service.

[–] mech@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

promote human rights
get called zionist

I mean I'm not surprised, this has become normal on lemmy.

I'm still offended, though.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Which "human right" did you promote? Not getting dunked on in a meme community isn't a human right. Literally no one here is doing anything to anyone other than insult literal fucking genocidal settlers, which they have every right to.

Also, I said zionist sympathizer. You sympathized with zionists. Would you have tone policed Polish people calling the Nazis inhuman monsters in the 1940s as well?

[–] mech@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The meme implies anyone not standing with Palestine isn't human.
Which I'm speaking up against. Even the worst people are humans, and all humans deserve human rights.
That's kind of the point of them.
And that has nothing to do with my opinion on Israel or Palestine.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You know this is a throwaway meme post right? It's a low effort dunk on objectively horrible people and nothing else. I'm genuinely wondering if this might be a cultural/language misinterpretation, but it's worth noting that hyperbole and taking talking points to their extremes is a pretty common trope in English meme culture. No one means it literally. No one is actually saying they're taxonomically not human. No one is saying they don't deserve human rights. What rights did you think we want to take away from them?

[–] mech@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No one is saying they don’t deserve human rights?

Read a few threads on lemmy about this war. There are a lot of people saying that.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Got references you can point to? Most of the threads I read specifically want them to face justice for their crimes. Which is part of human rights. Getting the death penalty after being found guilty of participating in literal genocide is more than fair and doesn't violate human rights.

Also, people say hyperbolic shit when they're angry. And this war has understandably made a lot of people extremely angry. Not defending them if they really are calling for taking away human rights, but those people won't be the actual ones deciding or even influencing what happens to anyone after the war so your tone policing is not doing much to help.

[–] mech@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Got references?

In this thread 3 separate users are in favor of war crimes on civilians and genocide, while the fourth argues against it by limiting themselves to favor extrajudicial killing, within a single conversation. It doesn't sound very hyperbolic.
https://lemmy.world/post/44949285
And that's just what fit in the screenshot.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I concede that there are some problematic takes in that thread, but they also don't seem to me like actionable threats or anything that could conceivably incite real world acts. I just see people who are angry at the current events venting their anger with little prior thinking through of the full implications. Not defending that, but... actually I tried to opine further but I feel I'm not knowledgable enough to talk about this, I personally wouldn't make those comments so I haven't really thought about justifying nor condemning people who do.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

fedditors not beating the zionist allegations in a hundred years edit: they actually can't see this bc. I got banned for calling out their zionism, so I can just say that I think we should be boiling them alive without starting a slapfight.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'll slapfight that, because that's a waste of time and water.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

No need to sterilise, reusable, quicker to decompose I think it's a superb idea.

[–] BigMike@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What good does dehumanizing do? Genuinely curious

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago

Catharsis tbh. I am german and it's stressful af since I can never know how much of a freak any given person here. feddit.org stands for pretty much everything wrong in this country, especially for what passes here an "left". Look at the fedditor freakshow in this thread for example: https://lemmy.ml/post/45151394

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In this case it might give zionists and their supporters a clue to think whether they are the bad guys.

[–] BigMike@lemmy.world -5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

By using the tactics used by colonizers? The same tactic used by the Nazis against "subhumans"? Is this really the road we want go down again as society?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"How can you like dogs when Hitler did too!"

[–] BigMike@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

So you disagree that dehuminazing is a bad thing or?

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Do you think that posts on social media are equal to genocide or colonization? It's obvious to anyone with a working brain that ‘human’ is used to mean ‘humane’ here.

Let's see what ‘inhuman’ means: “Of or pertaining to lack of compassion and the indifferently cruel, sadistic or barbaric behavior it brings”. Sounds quite apt to describe the behavior of zionists.

[–] BigMike@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Dehumanizing isn't about being inhumane. It's about denying the people are even human. They are only objects to you when you dehumanize them.

You are arguing for this.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, you're one of those who like to put words into other people's mouths. I don't appreciate your kind and ain't gonna bother talking to you.

[–] BigMike@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago

What did you think I meant when I asked what good dehumanizing does?

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

When people commit such terrible wrongs, some find it easier to pretend they are not human. They gotta do everything they can to pretend Santa is real. Otherwise the reality of humanity will set in.

This is who we are.

This is how we are.

This is where we live.

This is how we live. For now.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

dehumanizing nazis is standing with palestine. thank you western wise man! how could a barbarian like me ever understand anything without your guiding and knowledge from the old supreme world.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

No, it isn't standing with Palestine, nor standing against it. It's simply pointless and a tactical error.

Dehumanizing is a mistake that the Nazis made, leaving them vulnerable to their own propaganda. They expected all their victims to be sneaky, cowardly and inferior, and they paid for that mistake.

Dehumanizing the new wave of fascists leaves us open to the same mistake.

The people committing genocide in Palestine are human, and it's important for us to stop them by any means necessary, including killing them.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

explain to me what sort of dehumanizing took place here? a joke about nazisraelites lacking the basics of human emotion and compassion? it's not us who dehumanize them, it's themselves who do it in a process of segregated alienation

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago

Someone posted an image that says "Verify you are human", with the test being "I stand with Palestine".

The implication is that those who do not, are not human.

Yes, joking about how Zionist scum (and apathetic people) lack humanity is dehumanization. The image is very literally saying some is not human if they don't stand with Palestine.

And to recap what I said, this isn't some moral objection - death to the Zionist Regime and those who empower it. The problem is that dehumanization of humans is an anti-materialist delusion, which has historically led to underestimating enemies.

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