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I am about to set up a cloud instance with linux operating system, and the common choice here normally would be ubuntu. But since they failed their newest release, and I have the option of going fedora or debian. What would you guys recommend for server?

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 24 minutes ago

Rhel if you are using professionally. Their enterprise support staff are wizards when it comes to finding the cause of random issues.

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 2 points 48 minutes ago

Debian or Fedora

[–] HumbleBragger@piefed.social 1 points 32 minutes ago

I'd go with Debian but it's just a personal preference. I had some difficult to set up a samba server the other day in one of my laptops that was running fedora because of firewall configs that I don't use in Debian like adding context or something. Besides that, I kinda think dnf is better than apt in some ways but still use Debian on my home server. I just works

[–] omgboom@lemmy.world 0 points 16 minutes ago

Hannah Montana Linux

[–] Goingdown@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

I would use Ubuntu LTS (free) or Redhat Enterprise Linux. If paying is not an option, some RHEL derivate would probably also work.

Care to elaborate how Ubuntu failed newest release?

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

debian, but i prefer devuan personally

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 5 points 2 hours ago

I usually have Debian on all my servers for stability, and run almost everything inside containers for convenience. The few things that run directly in Debian are nginx for reverse proxying to container services, fail2ban+firewall, and wireguard for everything that moves data between servers/computers/devices I own

My first choice would still be Ubuntu, however if you don't like them RHEL is available for free for homelab's by jumping through some hoops.

Might also take a look at NixOS. Been running it for a while with no issues.

[–] tirateimas@lemmy.pt 7 points 3 hours ago

Debian would be the most obvious choice. Perhaps Alma is also a good option. If you would like a european option, OpenSUSE leap can also do the job.

[–] placebo@piefed.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

Professional as in an organisation? You should probably start by gathering functional and non-functional requirements from stakeholders.

[–] SpicySquid@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Best fit is always dependent on how you're planning to use it. Find out what your requirements before you set up a server.

Generally Debian is chosen very often, but I'd wager pretty much any distro will do. Your own experience goes a long way in making a distro a good choice.

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

It is going to run af .go application that is the backend for my website. Handling user logins, database translation etc.

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Which one has the biggest repositpry libruary off the bat? It's a GUI-less server. So no browser downloading of .deb files anyways.

[–] infeeeee@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 minutes ago

OpenMediaVault comes with a beginner friendly webui, and all programs from the debian repos are available. It's plain debian under the hood. You can install docker, lxc, k8s and kvm plugins and they are managable from the webui.

https://www.openmediavault.org/

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago
[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 hours ago

Debian & Alma of course!

[–] lsjw96kxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago

Can't say anything for professional use, but debian is rock solid, always a strong choice for servers.

[–] Arcanoloth@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago

I personally favour Alpine Linux for its minimalism, but Devuan or Debian are fine, and more familiar choices, too. Depending on what you intend to run, especially appliance-like things, OpenBSD might be a good alternative.

[–] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Professional Server grade distro, would probably be either Ubuntu, Red Hat Enterprise Linux or OpenSUSE Enterprise Linux.

For my personal homelab server I run Arch Linux, but I wouldn't do it in an enterprise.

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

openSUSE is sadly not an option at scaleway. Otherwise it wasn't a choice xD

[–] stoicEuropean@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

I think there are many right answers, and in the end it's dependent on your personal likings. I am self-hosting using Fedora, and I couldn't be happier.

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

how common is ubuntu on servers?

[–] bizdelnick@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 hours ago

Much more common than is should be.

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

At my workplace 95% is running ubuntu. Those servers that doesn't, are running crappy Microsoft server, and those are just because the applications weren't yet running on linux, but everything does now, so I gues they will switch to ubuntu very shortly.

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

interesting, i had no idea

[–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 2 points 24 minutes ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago) (1 children)

People shit on it but there's a lot of good open-source tooling that supports it.

There are nist l1 profiles

Tutorials and guides for everything

etc

Part of being a good sysadmin is knowing when not to reinvent the wheel. Ubuntu has a lot of options for vetted, hardened, "other people's wheels."

Also, for posterity, the competent ones are running the headless, server version of Ubuntu. (As opposed to the bloated mess that is Ubuntu Desktop). The server version catches a lot of flack it doesn't deserve.

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 1 points 18 minutes ago

i didn't shit on it, i am on kubuntu rn. i just never heard of it being a thing in the server world.

[–] bizdelnick@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

If you are choosing between Fedora and Debian, definitely go with Debian. Fedora evolves too rapidly for professional use, and its administration requires excessive effort.

[–] Egonallanon@feddit.uk 2 points 4 hours ago

I've used rocky Linux on a couple of boxes and it's been very good to me though I've since rationalised everything to Debian for the sake of simplifying my setup.

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

What's failed about their newest release ?

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Mostly the uutils.

  • MIT license isn't nice.
  • They have way more CVEs than the core utils they replace.
  • They don't have feature parity yet, so if you use some rare flags in your scripts, those will break.
[–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 1 points 29 minutes ago

Code rewrites are always going to have growing pains. Rewriting gnu-corrutils in rust is a noble effort.

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Dno, I don't use Ubuntu. Just heard from all my Linux sources (podcasts, forums, etc) that their Newest release sucked.

[–] bizdelnick@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

LOL, you could hear that about pretty much every release of any software.

[–] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 1 points 4 hours ago

arch linux btw

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world -2 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

My AI says I should always choose Debian 12 (last stabel) instead of 13 (latest build). Is this still a thing? Not hosting applications that needs to be reliably run on latest builds?

[–] OhmeHose@feddit.org 7 points 2 hours ago

Classic AI Garbage!

Debian 13 is stable and the latest stable you can get...

This page has options for downloading and installing Debian 13.4.0, the stable release.

Debian 13 download page, source of quote

I'm running on Debian Trixie since release last year with exactly zero issues, you can hardly get more stable than with Debian.

[–] bizdelnick@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

The current stable release is Debian 13. Choosing 12 is nonsense.

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 2 points 2 hours ago

Debian is already noiriously lagging behind latest package versions (that's how they make it so stable : they freeze all package versions when they release a new version of Debian, and only backport security fixes).

Either your AI was trained before Debian 13 came out, or it is giving you really bad advice. I can't think of a single good reason to use an older Debian for a fresh install...