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“Experts in Europe warn that these devices are used to record strangers without their consent, possibly breaching EU law.”

“A small LED light is designed to indicate when recording is taking place, but RTBF's investigators found that tutorials explaining how to conceal the indicator are abundant and easily accessible online.”

Sometimes I have a hard time deciding who I despise more, parasite Mark Zuckerberg or its witless hosts who keep using its products—yes, Zuck's pronoun is it. Ban Ray-Ban, for frick's sake.

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

as intended.

[–] Mearcfara@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

... and water is wet?

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

A small LED light is designed to indicate when recording is taking place, but RTBF's investigators found that tutorials explaining how to conceal the indicator are abundant and easily accessible online.

You need a tutorial to use a piece of electrical tape?

[–] darkmogool@feddit.org 10 points 4 hours ago

The users are peak idiots…

[–] FE80@lemmy.world 27 points 16 hours ago (15 children)

“Experts in Europe warn that these devices are used to record strangers without their consent, possibly breaching EU law.”

Isn't this all public cameras?

And private smart phones.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, in a way.

Privacy laws are a little complicated but not that bad.

In this case Europe sees filming in public, while concealing the fact, not legal.

Conversely, if you are filming and it is very clear that you are(ie a camera, film crew etc) and you are not singling out anyone who doesnt want to be recorded then it is perfectly legal to film in public.

Do you see how it works now and how these Ray-Ban glasses go against this?

Its legal to record in public as long as you respect the privacy of others. Of course they can always be a background figure if they are not focused on but making them the star of your production without consent makes it very illegal and immoral in my opinion.

Have a great day!

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago

I work in the field, in Europe, and can confirm this is about right. There are also situations where you start needing permits to film, either because it's private property or even public property if you start having to put down a lot of equipment and crew.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Recording camera in public sources are subject to the EU law. You can't install then without authorization and their use is reglemented.

I don't know if it's there case in all the EU but for example in France people need to be informed by a sign of a camera is recording the area, they can't record the entrance of private houses ...

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

In the US installation of cameras is actually pretty similar, but it's a property thing more than a privacy thing.

For instance, Flock made a deal with a local HOA to install cameras, but the fence lines for the houses are at the property line, so where they're wanting to place the cameras is in the public right-of-way. So they need to request a license to encroach into public property with private improvements.

However, cameras on private property facing public property are perfectly legal. And any private space visible from public property also has no "reasonable expectation of privacy."

Private property in public view not having an expectation of privacy sounds insane, but prohibiting recording of publicly-visible property essentially bans almost all outdoor recording of any kind because some private property is probably going to be somewhere in the frame.

If I take a selfie in the break room of my office (2nd floor), the background will include bits of dozens of private properties through the window.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 22 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Except that these cameras easily go anywhere, they aren't just outside on the street.

Spas? Pools? Gyms Locker rooms? Find a nice spot sitting on a bench near a women's dressing room at the mall that peeks in a bit? Set your glasses at your side and record while you look ahead at your phone, not freaking anyone out. They're pervert enablers just as much as Grok is a CSAM machine if you pay for it.

[–] belochka@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

as much as Grok is a CSAM machine if you pay for it.

CSAM is Child Sexual Assault Media, and Grok is not providing that, it's providing Child Pornography.

You are comparing making non-consensual material with real people to generating material with no real people (based off real media, though, but that's an implication with everything AI-generated).

Also true for spy cameras. And they don't have the disadvantage of needing to be attached to a person to work.

[–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Thats already illegal we don't need more laws for that, just enforcement.

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