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[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 13 points 1 hour ago

Lol, they got told to fuck off for not being profitable.

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Good. Those clowns will trash the index funds that so many depend on for retirement funding if they tank. And AI certainly will, and SpaceX is dependent on the whims of a drug addicted wingnut.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 minutes ago

Hmmm. Good for them.

Of course, I dumped the S&P 500 awhile back, to eliminate my exposure to the rest of the tech bubble (Amazon, Microsoft and friends betting hard on enshittification), anyway.

So this was both too little and too late, for me.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Fatwa all those godawful techbros.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 33 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't know that the SNP500 had such rules, but I'm so happy they didn't cave.

I hope people sue the indexes for changing the rules. Im not sure its possible but it really makes an index meaningless if its not consistent.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Nasdaq and Russel caved though. I don't know if there is a way to avoid them in our 401k.

[–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I actually just went hella heavy on Int'l and value stocks, in order to completely divest from Musk exposure in my retirement accounts.

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Which muskless and ai-less indexes u found? I'm working on the same

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 174 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

For those that didn't see the article from yesterday, the relevant rule that they refused to waive was the one that said a company must be profitable.

lol

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like they don't want to go along with these sham corporations and their smoke & mirrors accounting. It's like they want the companies in their index to be on sound financial footing or something.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Loooooseeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrs! Demanding fiscal accountability. HA!

The very idea!

[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 57 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

Lololololol the president of my company went full AI shithead recently and he posted how it was a big deal that they were going public and he was talking about how he see it as a great investment to purchase shares and I asked how it was a great investment to get shares of a company severely in the red and my comment got deleted in a few minutes

Edit: we also got claude code for everyone in the company and they are monitoring token use (as in we need to use a lot) and I asked if they were concerned that the token price would rise if the board of directors of anthropic suddenly wanted to make a profit and that comment also got deleted (this was in a virtual townhall so we can ask stuff, usually they just ignore the ones they don't want to answer but they were actually deleting them this time)

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago

My last company they didn't delete messages. That would be to obvious.

"I am sorry we didn't get around to answering all the questions live. We will respond to the remaining by email"

No more questions were answered.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 29 points 5 hours ago

You know this already but your company management are morons.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 21 points 4 hours ago

is...your company publically traded itself? looking for an easy short

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 18 points 4 hours ago

The only thing I'm gonna try investing in from this AI shitshow is China's CXMT RAM since they have a good chance of shanking both Nvidia and the RAM thug monopoly lol.

[–] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 hours ago

Oh thank god

[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 101 points 9 hours ago (14 children)

I've already withdrawn money I had invested in US.

You can't convince me this isn't bubble:

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It is even more extreme if you view the entire index history. The Covid peak looks almost benign in comparison and that was quite substantial but with a rather slow in rise and fall. Now, since the LLM bubble has been started, NASDAQ has almost doubled and in recent months almost feverishly. Nah, no bubble, nothing to see here, all based on reality. Please invest, we need to unload the bad money onto someone else.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I’ve pulled most of my money out of stocks stuck it in bonds. I have a few dividend ETFs like SCHD and some oil and energy sector stocks that I bought on the cheap before Trump fucked the oil markets.

It’s a giant bubble but there are sectors you can sit in defensively.

IMO the Space X and AI offerings are going to hoover up any liquidity left in a market that is showing less and less breath. Energy shortages will kill by July/August.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Yup I moved mostly out of usd, no stocks listed in the US, no US Treasuries.

I see either default or massive inflation or both in the cards for the US very soon.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Moving your money to overseas markets isn’t going to protect it. Other countries are having similar liquidity and bond issues. When the bubble bursts it’s going to be world wide.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Also fundamentals don’t mean shit when the bubble pops. Everything will come crashing down because everyone is panicking and knows that everyone else is also panicking. It will have a domino effect and even markets that aren’t even part of the bubble will get hit.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Yea I don't know why people think that this AI bubble is just in the USA, this is a global race, not just a US thing.

[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I'm still invested in some US stocks, but I'm switching my US market exposure to an index fund that weights by actual sales, revenue, and other objective factors, rather than market cap. Companies don't even get into the index unless they turn a profit first.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] QueenMidna@lemmy.ca 23 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 8 points 4 hours ago

I'm curious as well!

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 6 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

"Very soon" that's what's been said for years now. I too think this isn't sustainable, but it sure feels like it'll keep rolling for a number of years.

[–] Jacob_Mandarin@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago

“markets can remain irrational a lot longer than you and I can remain solvent.”

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Here's an even more interesting one:

Nasdaq 100 vs P/E ratio historic graph

It's the P/E ratio (the ration between the stock Price of a company and it's Earnings) of the Nasdaq vs the Price.

Notice how the Nasdaq price has tracked the P/E, with since at least 2020 the stock prices not increasing because company earnings are going up but rather just from increased speculation hence the rise in the ratio of stock Prices to Earnings.

The P/E (in other words, the company stock prices relative to the actual money a company makes) is now about twice as much as back in 2020.

[–] Ontimp@feddit.org 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Wow that's a pretty wild statistic here. Is there historical precedent for this?

S&P 500 PE Ratio hit 120 in 2008, but thats because earnings collapsed.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 24 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The main issue as usual is US hegemony (or what's left of it) has a way of fucking up the rest of the world. When that bubble pops it's going to cause a whole bunch of industries trouble.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 33 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Hence why there is frantic effort in decoupling from USA and connecting with alternative markets in the rest of the world.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 7 hours ago

Yeah fucking finally too!

Every fucking american crisis bleeds into our countries every goddamn time, but they? Let's do worse next time!! No regulation!! War!!

Aaaahrg.

/Rant off

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 238 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Excellent! Fuck Musk.

And while I'm not an AI hater, that is 100% the investors trying to cash out before the industry runs into trouble.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, it really is painfully obvious that the fatcats are trying to cash out on the bubble before it blows.

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[–] Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 hours ago
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