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[–] shittydwarf@piefed.ca 154 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] tal@lemmy.today 40 points 3 days ago

I doubt that this is political theater. The judge


who is a neutral party here, and introduced the question


is asking a pretty straightforward question, testing the argument that the lawyer is making. "If your argument that Trump can rebuilt the wing of the White House holds, it seems that it'd entail X (where X is something that it seems like we wouldn't want). Is that true?"

If you read court transcripts, this isn't an uncommon thing for a judge to do.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus 83 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It would certainly be representative of the times. What I'm interested in are contradictions MAGA supporters come up with to justify such a thing.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

MAGA supporters don't care about Lady Liberty. She's a Big City Liberal with a woke sissy poem about letting in illegals.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 days ago

It's because Trump thinks that being the president means he owns everything now. He thinks this country is his personal possession, that every building and monument in it belongs to him personally. He thinks the white house is his literal house instead of the people's house that we allow him to live in.

Unfortunately, his being wrong doesn't seem very relevant to the current political and judicial reality.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

You maniacs! You blew it up! Damn you! God damn you!

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

When the judge asked the DOJ to clarify that nothing could be done if the President ordered the Statue of Liberty bulldozed, the DOJ lawyer said, quote: "I think that’s right, yes.”

As a legal argument, "I think that's right, yes" has about as much substance as, "Sure, whatever."

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 62 points 3 days ago (1 children)

France should ask for it back.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

France should bomb the shit out of it and tell Frump to fuck off.

[–] X@piefed.world 6 points 3 days ago

Now we’re talking. Do it, France!

[–] areakode@riskeratspizza.com 56 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Can't wait for the replacement...

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Someone needs to slap a big, floppy, suction cup dildo to the end of that tiny hand.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Bubba’s wang

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

is it me or do those hands look really small

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

That might not even be the weirdest hypothetical DOJ has argued this year.

Trump DOJ Refuses to Rule Out Second Amendment Right to Nuclear Weapons

Now, to be clear, DOJ lawyers do not argue that nuclear weapons are currently protected by the Second Amendment. But that is based on the view that nukes could not become popular enough to be protected, not because of the unmistakable threat to public safety that civilian access to nuclear warheads would create. Under this dangerous logic, if nuclear weapons become more common, all bets are off: Civilians might then be constitutionally entitled to acquire and possess them. And though the Trump DOJ’s discussion of nuclear weapons may seem farfetched, the same logic would apply to a grenade launcher or bazooka.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

So can I own a helicopter with 50 cal guns?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

I don't see anything in the 2nd conditioning it on popularity!

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 35 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Wonder what the city and state of New York would say to that.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 103 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

They'll file a lawsuit after it's demolished and find out in 4-6 years the statue shouldn't have been demolished.

The admin will say it was a matter of national interest to be demolished, supreme court will give them a double thumbs up, and well - what could have been done.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Im surprised we didn't just wake up to the news it was scrapped for the copper overnight and the money is going to a hotel he plans to build in its place.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

It’s obvious the money would go to cover a gold plated statue of himself giving a double thumbs up.

The plaque will be replaced with:

"Give me your whites, your rich, your business class looking to exploit the poor"

This of course assumes there’d be anything so poetic inscribed. More likely it would read:

“Poor? Desperate? Foreign? Turn back now or be shot on sight”

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

And kid Rock is in charge of the scrap copper removal.

[–] No1@aussie.zone 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You forgot that Trump will pre-emptively pardon himself and everyone involved, and so nobody will ever be held accountable or face any consequences.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

*national security

Trump is exploiting all of the "except for an emergency" language in our laws. He just claims everything is an emergency no matter how stupid it is. The courts, in their extremely limited wisdom, long ago decided that there was no way for them to determine what a valid emergency was and just defers to the executive.

The courts, in their extremely limited wisdom, long ago decided that there was no way for them to determine what a valid emergency was and just defers to the executive.

I can kind of see the reasoning behind this. If there is a genuine emergency, you don’t want to waste time in the courts. Urgency matters.

To make an absurd metaphor, imagine if you called 911 because your house was on fire. You call, and tell the operator. And then instead of immediately dispatching a fire crew to handle it, the operator goes “okay, we’ll send a judge over to take a look and determine if this is a legitimate emergency. They’ll be there in about 30 minutes. Maybe an hour, because the courts are pretty busy right now. If the judge determines it is an emergency, we’ll dispatch the fire truck.”

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

States Rights only exist when it's a Dem president silly.

States rights are only a thing when it's convenient for these nazi-wannabes in charge.

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Complain, then take it hard.

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

Sternly worded letter and some social media posts to fundraise for the next campaign cycle.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is so stupid. Do you even know how big that bulldozer would have to be?

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In France they would call it "Le Big Mac".

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 19 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Honestly the New Colussus is the only thing that was ever cool about America, even if it was a lie.

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[–] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

statue of mamdani is fine with me

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

MAGA morons: “He’S nOt A kInG!”

[–] Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 8 points 3 days ago

Of course he isn't. Kings have way less power and authority than the POTUS.

Honestly, I think it would be best for everybody if we just let Trump be an actual king. Let him wear a crown and sit on a throne while the prime minister actually runs the country.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Oh this MF. He is threatening Alderaan and he does not even know it. New Yorkers will go to war for that, lest he replace it with a gold anus

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The headline is super misleading considering this has to do with construction of that stupid ballroom at the white house.

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In order to demonstrate Trump’s supposedly far-reaching power to destroy and alter national monuments at whim, the DOJ lawyers claimed that if the president wanted to bulldoze the Statue of Liberty in New York, there would be no one with the standing to challenge him.

“If the government decides very quickly to bulldoze the Statue of Liberty, the people whose ancestors—that was the first thing they saw coming to this country, but the government moved too fast—nothing can be done?” Judge Patricia Millett asked, according to Politico’s Kyle Cheney.

“I think that’s right, yes,” the government responded.

Not sure what is misleading about the headline. DOJ is arguing on the President's behalf that he has the unilateral authority to demolish or modify any national or historic monuments he chooses (at minimum, any managed by the Parks Service).

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

It's misleading bcz the title of the post implies they're trying to do it.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seems to be what they actually said so I don't see how it's misleading.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's misleading bcz the title implies they are trying to do that.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

No it doesn't.

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