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[–] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 105 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's just a way to do layoffs while trying to fight off the unemployment claims.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 60 points 8 months ago (3 children)

But it loses the best people keeping the worst. Dead Sea.

[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 67 points 8 months ago

Management doesn't care as long as line go up. Corporate America is constantly chasing short-term gains and damn the future.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Eh.. why would Dell need the best people? They're a mediocre company. Mediocre staff are sufficient.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 months ago

Maybe that's what they realized!

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

When you're doing professional services, having mediocre people means no repeat business. Unrelated, but my company is working with a 3rd party for the second half of an addition to a platform that dell professional services helped us set up.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Best people = expensive people in management speak

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Best people = your entire product

Usually

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

That's a problem for next quarter

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This should really be more strongly regulated, these constructive dismissal shenanigans are just assinine.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 22 points 8 months ago

Nah, let's stick with zero employee protections, and prioritize ever increasing corporate profits at any cost. That's the best path forward for a prosperous society.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 62 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Where I work at they decided the "office" people need to keep a presence just in case some random person walks in off the street and wants to ask questions. I'm the IT guy, I have no intention of talking to anyone I don't support, I have no knowledge to answer any questions about our business that I could offer, and my office isn't even near the front desk where I could hear anyone come in anyway ... but yeah it totally makes sense that I should have to drive in a couple days a week to a place where they make me pay for parking, just to sit at my desk all day and answer emails.

Of course there's two reasons why I haven't made a stink about their idiocy. First is that in doing my job, it really is helpful to others if they know they can meet me in person at certain times to fix issues that can't easily be solved over email. The second is that I can see my retirement on the horizon (about ten years away), and in the last ten years the place I work has made a huge contribution to my 401A, so much that it has already passed everything I've put away from previous jobs. If I can hunker down for another decade, I won't even need social security to retire comfortably, and that's a really good thing since Trump and other Republicans have already stated they are trying to eliminate it so they can justify collecting fewer taxes from the rich. I may be one of the last generations that can afford to retire and I'm not taking that lightly.

[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Kudos on the 401K! Best of luck!

"The leopards won't eat my face" people are happy with a horrible life as long as someone else has an even more horrible life.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 10 points 8 months ago

as long as someone else has an even more horrible life

My parents always knew I would be a disappointment, they just didn't count on that being a positive thing! ;-)

[–] ElderberryLow@programming.dev 5 points 8 months ago

You have a good outlook, even when they make you pay for parking! Your first reason about helping others and the value of in-person IT support is really great though, I had to do the same when I was at a Service Desk last year. There are good times where in-person stuff is necessary or good. But not grounds for eligibility for promotion!

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I've got some bad news about the climate lol.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

lol, depending on what your level is this might actually be fine. Yeah, you mean I can just chill and not take on responsibility or have to fake enthusiasm for “career” growth when all I really want to do is collect a paycheck and clock out at 5pm… while also having amazing work-life balance and no commute due to WFH? Where do I sign up?

[–] nihilvain@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This. Also if I have to change jobs every 2-3 years to get a market level salary why would I even bother. This is the reality they created.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Johnson, where is that quarterly turnover report? We can't train people fast enough! Why are we wasting so much money on all these HR costs like recruiting and pizza parties? What we need is a real game changer, I've got it, we'll give them access to the Calm app to help with 60 hrs per week.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Literally what I am doing. I'm past the point of caring about my career because I don't want the responsibility or stress for a couple dollars. I do my job, keep my head down, and don't cause waves.

[–] ElderberryLow@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

I hadn't thought of that lol. I'm not in the place yet where I'm good to sit in a position, so this policy would run me off. But hey if you're in a good spot at Dell and don't want or need to rock the boat, then go for it.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

They also suck as a service provider at a major corporation. Consistency is only a virtue if you're not a fuck up.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Dell didn't respond to specific questions Ars Technica sent about the changes but sent a statement saying: "In today’s global technology revolution, we believe in-person connections paired with a flexible approach are critical to drive innovation and value differentiation."

BI said it saw a promotion offer that a remote worker received that said that accepting the position would require coming into an "approved" office, which would mean that the employee would need to move out of their state.

At the time, Dell's chief described the company as "committed to allow team members around the globe to choose the work style that best fits their lifestyle—whether that is remote or in an office or a blend of the two."

"We're being forced into a position where either we're going to be staying as the low man on the totem pole, first on the chopping block when it comes to workforce reduction, or we can be hybrid and go in multiple days a week, which really affects a lot of us," an anonymous employee told BI.

Unnamed employees that BI spoke with showed concerns that the upcoming policy is an attempt to get people to quit so that Dell can save money on human resources without the severance costs of layoffs.

For example, a study by University of Pittsburgh researchers of some S&P 500 businesses found that return-to-office directives hurt employee morale and do not boost company finances.


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[–] downpunxx@fedia.io 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

they are literally The Machine

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

And based on my experience with Dell computers, they are the machine producing absolutely shitty machines.