Cowbee

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

The nuances of the PRC's desire for a One China policy largely stem from the Marxist theory of Nations, along with a desire to throw off all western colonizers. Without understanding the depths of the "century of humiliation" you can't hope to understand the desire for a unified China.

Secondly, the PRC's process means social change comes slowly, but it has been improving. Notably, Xin Jing, a transgender woman, is one of China's top celebrities. Change is slow, but is happening at different rates across different sections of the PRC. Social change comes from improvements in productive forces and focusing on people as a priority.

Thirdly, nobody is saying the PRC is Anarchist, but your insistence that everyone agree with you saying the government is by definition a tool of oppression despite 90%+ approval rates stands at direct odds with the people themselves. Like it or not, you must face the reality that it is Marxism that has brought great improvements to China's conditions, and these improvements are continuing at a rapid pace, and thus has widespread support.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

You can see quite a few instances in this thread of such accusations. Actually, maybe not, you aren't federated with the major leftist instances as far as I know.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago

Klein herself is fairly liberal, but the impact on the post-Soviet citizenry is apt. 7 million people died so that the West could profit.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Why does it make you suspicious? Do you have legitimate grounds for this? Under the CPC, extreme poverty has been eliminated, and China went from being one of the poorest countries on the planet to a rising superpower in less than a century. When you look at the real, material change in people's lives in as short a timespan as this, it's understandable why they have a high approval rate.

Secondly, I don't know what you're referring to as "justification for violence and oppression."

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (13 children)
  1. Nobody believes Russia is a Utopia.

  2. Nobody believes the PRC is perfect, but on the right track, and especially nice in Tier 1 and 2 cities.

  3. The CPC has over 90% support, the fact that China has a government does not mean that is "evil."

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

This might be a hard pill to swallow, but Putin is largely popular among Russians for assisting with throwing out the Western Capitalists that bought the various slices of the former USSR after "Shock Doctrine" killed 7 million people with the re-introduction of Capitalism, and the CPC has an over 90% approval rate. Political opposition is largely limited because both governments have more support among their citizenry than Western governments do.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Vaporwave but with Parenti speeches 😎

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I appreciate you calling me smart and trying to have a conversation, however I want to stress something you said:

I’m saying that tankies claim to be communists but spend all day parroting their favorite Russian or Chinese state propaganda because they believe everything else is clearly controlled by Obamna™ himself. They rarely actually talk about communism, they just roam Lemmy all day calling everybody who disagrees with them a liberal :D

What you are seeing is one aspect of people, and moreover the ones with "favorite state propaganda" that distrust all western sources as liberal propaganda don't exist. Even just seeing people debating endlessly on Lemmy.ml is just one aspect, people frequently have different accounts or discuss Communism on different threads than the ones they get into debates in.

Additionally, I encourage you to look beyond the western veil. There are plenty of Russia-critical sources and China-critical sources in the east.

With respect to China, I encourage you to look into processes like Whole Process People's Democracy, State Owned Enterprises, and other aspects to see how Socialism with Chinese Characteristics works. I encourage you to read the article I linked, as well. Additionally, while I know you said you are an Anarchist, your point on centralization being a bad thing goes directly against Marxist understanding. I recommend the article Why Public Property?

Capitalism concentrates itself and centralizes, which prepares the productive forces for the mechanisms required to centerally plan them after folding them into the Public Sector. Central Planning is the only way to truly democratize production in the eyes of Marxists.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

Thanks! Feel free to ask questions 🫡

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Haha, if you want the most bang for your buck I stand wholeheartedly behind my introductory reading list. I truly put a lot of effort into it and several comrades helped tremendously.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago (13 children)

It's certainly difficult, but when in doubt I love sharing this person's articles as more bite-sized bits of theory and soundbites from Michael Parenti speeches, haha.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago
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