Objection

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You mentioned that I may want to deflect the responsibility from Biden. -> I don’t have such interests.

Again, why did you feel the need to say that you don’t care about internal US politics when I didn’t say shit about internal US politics?

Whoever did it

Yeah, could be Russia's biggest geopolitical rival that directly benefited both politically and economically by forcing Europe to buy their gas instead and which said that it would do that exact thing under those exact conditions and easily have the means to do it, or it could've been anyone, really.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

No, I’m not. I just said that this post was likely Russian propaganda. That’s it.

Because the post criticized the fact that American citizens get zero say over foreign policy, you assumed it was "likely Russian propaganda."

Maybe you should engage in some critical reflection instead of repeating whatever imperialist genocidal powers tell you to think.

I do, you should try it yourself sometime, bootlicker.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yes, because you're claiming that anyone who doesn't fall in line with your Orwellian "five minutes hate" is a traitor. That's the definition of bootlicking.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

I never denied that Russia has propaganda. I do deny your assumption that anyone who isn't slobbering over US boots must automatically be licking Russian boots, that anyone who doesn't do like you do and fall in lockstep behind hating whoever the people in power tell us to hate must be a traitor or spy.

Keep denouncing anyone who's antiwar for their lack of patriotism, you're making Goering proud.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Why would I want to deflect blame from Biden? I’m telling you that I’m a European and I don’t care who’s in charge in the US or which president did what.

Why did you feel the need to say that you don't care about internal US politics when I didn't say shit about internal US politics?

All I did was post a clip of the US president promising that he'll stop NordStream if Russia invaded Ukraine, despite not having the legal authority to do so. Then, of course, Russia invaded Ukraine, and the NordStream pipeline mysteriously got stopped (could be anyone, really!)

because that sabotage was very convenient for every party

It certainly wasn't convenient for Russia or Germany.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Ok? The significance of the clip I posted was not that it was Biden saying it but what he said he would do (and very likely did). Why did that prompt you say, "FYI: in the EU we don’t play the “it was Biden vs it was Trump” game. We stop at “it was the US?”"

The reason I posted that clip was to establish the reason why I believe the US blew up the pipeline. Yes, it happens to be Biden in that clip, but you're the one who started talking about distinguishing between Trump and Biden and then about not distinguishing between Trump and Biden. I'm just talking about the US.

The only thing I can think of is that you're trying to preemptively shift the NordStream thing away from Biden and onto the US in general as a way of deflecting blame from Biden. But again, I just brought it up to establish US policy on NordStream, not specifically to bash Biden. If it's not that, then I just straight up don't understand you at all.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (7 children)

You literally just said that it was because of Republicans that the EU soured on the US and now you're telling me that in the EU you don't look at which party is in charge but at the US as a whole. Do you not see how these statements are contradictory?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Republicans just convinced Europe that the USA cannot be trusted anymore

FYI: in the EU we don’t play the “it was Biden vs it was Trump” game. We stop at “it was the US”.

What?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Naturally, the common people don’t want war. . . but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

Fucking bootlicker.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

More or less agree with your take, but:

I am reasonably confident this would not have happened in a Dem regime.

I'm fairly confident in my memory that Israel attacked Syria under Biden, taking advantage of the instability to expand it's illegal settlements in the Golan Heights. Am I wrong?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As opposed to Biden merely calling their decisions "outrageous" and strongly condemning them while supporting Netanyahu after they issued a warrant for his arrest.

I'm not sure how that's connected to Syria, tbh.

 
 
 
 
 

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DISRUPT INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING NOW!!

OGEY

Niche ocean carrier Atlantic Container Line is warning the fines the U.S. government is considering hitting Chinese-built freight vessels with would force it to leave the United States and throw the global supply chain out of balance, potentially fueling freight rates not seen since Covid.

“This hits American exporters and importers worse than anybody else,” said Andrew Abbott, CEO of ACL. “If this happens, we’re out of business and we’re going to have to shut down.”

[...] U.S. is no position to win an economic war that places ocean carriers using Chinese-made vessels in the middle. Soon, Chinese-made vessels will represents 98% of the trade ships on the world’s oceans.

Hey, Abdul-Malik Badr Al-Din Al-Houthi, how'd I do?

Thank you Mr. President, that's exactly what I meant. But why-

Another day, another banger

 

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