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The developers of Lemmy do not seem interested in anything less than banning people instance-wide, even from communities that they have never posted in before, so ironically shadowbanning is too subtle for them.

But I thought the only way someone could be shadowbanned now is at the individual user level? It would be nice to increase transparency even further - e.g. a message pops up if you try to reply to someone saying like "this user has blocked you" (possibly everyone from that instance) so that people do not waste time trying to get a message across that the recipient will never read.

The version code hasn't even hit 0.2 yet. Lemmy was founded by people who got banned from Reddit for being too toxic & extremist leftists, so went off to make their own replacement. They do what they like, and bc Rust is a difficult language to work with, not that many are willing to help.

Then after Huffman's debacle, we started to see Kbin, Mbin, Piefed, Sublinks, and perhaps more - but none even as advanced as Lemmy yet.

But more to the point, that's just the nature of an open network. Wouldn't Wikipedia suffer from the same issues? Though less of an issue than a social media framework I would wager.

I want to have the ability to turn on my echo chamber, when I want it, and also to be able to turn it off, when I want to step outside of it for awhile. This doesn't have to be a toggle - it could be having an alt on a different instance.

I don't want this choice made for me by people who think they know better how to run my own life than me. They can write an appeal that I will consider, but ultimately I want to make my own choice.

Having votes be publicly viewable allows us all the freedom to do as we choose with that information - including to ignore them entirely. What I would probably do with it is make large block lists of people on lemmy.ml, since it turns out that user blocks of an instance don't block all that much. Fwiw, for everyone I've blocked in the past, I look through the post history to see if they merely are being disagreeable on a particular matter but overall are capable of contributing something substantive to a conversation, or are nothing more than a troll, setting out to vomit their emotions upon everyone worldwide across the Fediverse.

I've been a mod before, on Reddit, and am under no illusions anymore that everyone is worth listening to - a downvote from someone rational I will give serious thought about, but an idiot is an idiot, even if a community mod hasn't banned them (yet?).

It's like autocorrect: feel free to make suggestions, but it would be nice if I could have control when I want it, including/especially not wasting my time.

Unlike commenting and posting, which offers the who, what, where, and when parts of the message passing process, voting on Lemmy (now, for non-admins) is inherently an unequal process. Imagine if someone could send you an email whenever they wanted, but you were prevented from knowing who or even from what instance it is from, or when it was sent, do you think that could open up a potential for some variety of abuse? Or texting, phone calls, showing up at your door, etc.

Knowing the identity of the voter is an important part of properly receiving the "message". It also increases freedom of choice, b/c otherwise the only way to prevent such messages (if, let's take it as a given that some people find them annoying) would be to turn off voting entirely, either by going to one of the instances that does that, or just ignoring all (down-)votes yourself.

If we want the Fediverse to grow, and in particular to include less emotionally stunted humans that actually care when someone says something about them, good or bad, this will be a necessity. (Also, I was speaking tongue-in-cheek there, but genuinely social standards do vary across this wide world, and it really would increase content if there were not only more but different types of people, especially those most likely to generate quality content.)

And as other non-Lemmy methods of access to the Fediverse provide that feature - k/mbin, piefed, sublinks - Lemmy will fall increasingly behind if it were to ignore this very basic feature.

Making the votes public also increases honesty, since they are already public now. And if you don't want to know who down-(up?-)votes you then... don't look? But for those who want to know, it will be a great feature to have.

4 also appears 3 times, but that number 3 isn't always a number 3 - especially the bottom right kinda looks like a negative 3, and the one left of it...

Always innovating, never maintaining - what could possibly ever go wrong with that model? 🙄

A lot of people still don't know.

Some people don't even know what Reddit is.

Now, Reddit is charging Google for priority access to its posts (article - only Google and Brave will show those results in the near future).

Perhaps Google will start charging money to use it also.

Wrt things like this, and climate change, the rise of fascism globally, the outsourcing of jobs, etc., people should be much more afraid than they are currently.

I think people used to be thus during the cold war era, yet WWIII never materialized and people are just burnt out from being told that they need to be afraid all the time - e.g. those school drills where kids knelt down and placed heads behind the backs of their necks, like that would somehow stop an atomic bomb?

Now, "nothing bad can ever happen", even as we see heat spikes of 100 degrees in the Arctic and the 4 globally hottest days ever recorded were all last week, on top of 14 straight months of record-setting temps too. The octogenarian leaders whose fingers can't even type on a mobile phone somehow "lead" our nation even in areas like technology. Note: I am not getting on their case for being chronologically old or even not knowing things (ignorance is easily cured), I am condemning them for choosing to remain in their ignorance (obstinacy), even while retaining their positions of power & authority (corruption) rather than cede to those who actually know stuff.

I have no problems with someone choosing not to learn about difficult matters - e.g. vaccinations - but in that case, don't vote. Your choices to be lazy & willfully uninformed should not dictate mine to remain alive.

Yeah I went off on a tangent here, b/c Altman is simply one more example of all that has come before - e.g. Huffman and Musk did it before him, and Bezos before that, and so on, and it will fucking never end. Protect yourself as best you can... somehow. e.g. coming to the Fediverse (which soon, with Sublinks and Piefed, will offer alternatives beyond just Lemmy) seems a great first step to me:-).

It did not always used to be this way, though it was always headed here.

I... uh, found a way:-D.

Yeesh... I would reconsider working there if possible, but being able to (checks notes) pay rent and afford food and medical care may just make up for it.:-| Hopefully you don't need to surf the web much at work.

Prexactly:-)