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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (4 children)

to advocate for cooperatives and elect officials that will help support them? With the right state sponsored incentives, cooperatives can be a great stepping stone for a peaceful transition of power giving workers ownership to the means of production. I struggle to understand how someone can argue against this idea.

So basically the state exists in order to defend capitalism from internal and external threats, and a cooperative movement growing too big is a threat that it is going to respond to violently. Hell, union struggles led to literal battles and aerial bombings, and they only wanted better conditions working for the capitalists.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

There’s already a lot of us in support of socialist ideas where one of the biggest criticisms is for a planned economy

Planned economies are good actually, there is a reason semi-feudal russia was able to go to space in 40 years after the revolution, while beating off imperial superpowers like Germany and Britain.

Was Lenin aware of cooperatives when he wrote the state and revolution? Its not a theoretical idea.

Yes lol: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/kropotkin-peter/1917/a-meeting.html

There can be no such thing as peaceful revolution, if your political movement is getting anywhere the bourgeoisie will send their dogs to destroy it, and it will be violent. You must only look to history to see how easily the mask of civility slips away and the inhuman, bloodthirsty face of capital is revealed.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

If someone mugs me and then hands me a dollar, that is charity.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Why would they be incentivized by the state that exists to uphold capitalism? Read state and revolution.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

Looks at downvotes

sees number of called out liberals

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

I dont know what you're trying to say.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Why would I pretend China is a democracy when it empirically is according to any useful measure?

High government approval

Bottom up representation

Policies benefit the masses

Wide range of public opinion represented in government

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's literally socialism with Chinese characteristics

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Well, China, a participatory democracy with a 95 percent approval rating according to a Harvard study, is in the meme building high speed rail, and you're claiming you have to be an authoritarian dictatorship to build high speed rail?

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I'm confused by this, because it looks like China is proving you wrong right now?

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago

It isnt funny when people are both racist and transphobic and accuse a cis black woman of being trans for the crime of doing well at the Olympics

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

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