PeriodicallyPedantic

If federation works the way it's claimed to, then if we migrate even the bad parts of reddit here it should be fine.

Lemmy is turning into an elitist cesspool.

Lots of edgelords here like "I don't want the reddit plebs here" as though they weren't happily one of them a couple years ago.

Let them come over. Put the idea of federation to the test. Isn't that one of the major features of federation, if there are a bunch of shitty people you can just defederate or use a different community?
If federation does what it claims then it'll only be an improvement.

I agree with people saying not to force people here if they don't wanna be (not that we could), but the people saying that folks still on reddit are there because they inherently prefer the reddit application UX is crazy. They prefer the content in reddit. And they have a point.

Folks here are way more insufferable than reddit. Just the other day there was a post being like "why do reddit users hate Lemmy?" And linked a reddit post about it. But the comments on the reddit post were considered, nuanced, and polite; while the comments on the Lemmy post were a bunch of neckbeards crying about how terrible reddit users are.

TLDR y'all need to look in the mirror.

Edit: typo degenerate → defederate

There are so few native desktop apps these days, it's all on the web.
And the browser can glean a lot more about user interaction than just web traffic, like where you hover, what parts of the page you're interacting with, etc.
That's why I said that (combined with phone), Google probably knows more.

But it's probably a pretty close competition

Honestly, in my experience since I fully moved to Lemmy:

Almost any subreddit is more mature than any Lemmy channel.
This isn't just number of users (but that's a huge problem that has been mentioned here a lot), it means that the chance you'll run into a mod who is a tinpot despot is pretty high, and there is nothing you can do about it if you're not willing to sit alone in a ~~ghost town~~ alternate community.

They also spy, because just a few billion isn't enough

I feel like MS and Google should be switched. Web probably has more harvestable info. Plus phones.

Almost everyone in the linked Reddit post seems to be supportive of Lemmy, or even Lemmy users. Even the people who tried it and stopped seem generally warm to the idea and just think it needs polish.

I'd say that this comment section is way more vitriolic than that one lol

I've fantasized about this.

I had some friends who actually DID build a secret room behind a bookshelf, where they had their home theatre or something like that I forget (they were more like close coworkers of my wife than my own friends, but they were super nice).

What exactly do you think my current position is?

There was never a fig leaf. They already didn't need to devote any attention to political cover, the USA already made it clear that it wouldn't tolerate holding Israel or any of the Israeli politicians accountable in international courts.

The difference between the two is purely in wording and absolutely immaterial. If anything, trump is being more honest about it.

Trump is terrible for other reasons, but they're both equal in this matter

how about his commitment to arm Israel with no strings attached? No humanitarian aid, no cease fires...

Oh you mean exactly like right now?

Anyone who thinks that orange man is an improvement is an idiot. But anyone who thinks Kamala would be better is also an idiot.

Israel is already getting everything they could ever wish for. There is nothing that Trump could offer that they're not already getting, including protection from the international community.

Increased suffering?
How can their suffering be increased more than it is now?

Israel is already getting everything could have ever wished for. There is nothing trump could do to make that worse.

There were other reasons to vote for Harris, but this wasn't one.