Sasha

Modern society was partly possible due to the printing press. Yep, it sucks that people had their jobs replaced and if it were happening now I'd be fighting for them to be looked after, as they should.

Generating art is not some amazing world changing technology, it's trash. We do not need to replace artists, and frankly we just fucking shouldn't.

I can kinda get behind that, but only if it's done right (which I'm absolutely convinced it won't be, thanks to history).

Even just paying the people who lose their jobs, and helping them transition to other work is bad because voice acting is probably a dream job for a lot of people. We also have to ethically source training data, and I don't really see that happening. After all, who would want to contribute to losing their own job?

If we could do all that, I think we can agree as a society to protect those jobs instead. I legimately think we can have only the good, but I understand that doing so requires a fight. I'd much rather fight for that than lay down and accept the worst possible option.

Edit: I'll add further, that this is probably already happening, just for the CEOs. They have the power to create tools capable of replacing them, and to prevent them from replacing them.

Do you understand that there's a choice about what purpose to make these for?

That yeah, you can just ignore all the harm you'll do? That people do just ignore all the harm they are doing?

No, I'm not one to call people stupid. I'm calling people and corporations greedy, there's an insanely long history of that and I'm sick of it ruining this world.

People do choose to make good AI, ones that will and currently are benefiting people. This is not one of them, I'm not calling all AI bad, I'm calling theft and soulless art generation bad.

What if a solar flare hits? What if the world was made of pudding?

In what world is it a bad thing for someone to get paid for their skills? That's a bizarre spin to put on it.

And yes, UBI should definitely happen, but we shouldn't start painting the world with crap to do it.

No, this is a tool that does all of the work of an artist. It is absolutely not an assistant.

That's a bad faith argument, and it's actively harmful. Artists are struggling yes, and this just makes that worse, it won't be a separate market that somehow doesn't impact them.

If you think we should actually work to make it harder for artists to do things, that it's actually good that they struggle, then you have some messed up priorities, friend.

Except that this is entirely unecessary, and doesn't create a product we need, and it's certainly not one I want.

I want to support people, I want people to do beautiful incredible things. I don't want a higher production rate of souless art statistically generated by taking the work of thousands of people without their consent, for no good reason.

Replace CEOs with AI, that would be good progress.

I also mentioned in another comment that this technology has some very very good uses, I am convinced creating art is an evil use. I'm a big fan of projects like Talon Voice, you can donate voice samples to help improve their language model to help people who struggle to use a computer with their hands. It's amazing stuff and I love it.

I do not like theft laundering machines.

I like people.

AI actually has good uses when embedded within technology, a great example being natural language processing, it's capable of so much good especially for the disabled. But so much effort is being focused on creating junk, using stolen data. People are not being paid for their work which is then being used to replace their jobs.

I'm more concerned about the fact that shitty companies will use this sort of thing to put graphic designers out of a job.

This isn't good progress. Even soulless corporate bullshit puts food on the table for someone, soon it'll just make another company a bit richer.

Cool, another step in the ruining art with AI saga

These are all short clips because they look like ass if you get enough time to actually look at them. But even still, can people just stop with this shit?

Let people do the one truely human thing ffs.

Edit: Let me be clear, AI has good uses. My only argument here is that generating art is not one, especially when the training data is stolen and used for profit.

It might be, if it's more efficient to use that energy for some other option.

It really seems like people can't get past the fact that while nuclear did have an unfair reputation, it's just too late to make use of it.

Like yeah, it sucks that people blocked it and we built tons of fossil fuel power instead, but now we just have a better option and we can give up that fight.