TheTestHuman

This doesn't make sense. And as you can see with Belarus and Georgia, those countries just want to decide their own futures. But guys like you always go about but Russia didn't want them to and that's threatening. They want to be able to send soldiers and do whatever they want. Why should Russia be in charge they weren't even in charge of the Soviet Union for the most time of its existence.

The UN thing is the part were I will stop talking to you. IF YOU DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VETO MEMBERS ARE. WOW RUSSIA WILL OF COURSE NOT BLOCK SANCTIONS AGAINST THEMSELVES.

You understand that you're telling bullshit kremel propaganda?

There was no option for Ukraine to ascend to either EU or NATO at the beginning of the war. This was already achieved by the krimea annexation afterwards it was determined that they didn't want to give up the territory and no one wanted to conquer it for them so there was no realistic discussion about them joining either.

My point on the China thing is that they are aktivly supporting our European enemy so there is a problem with becoming strategic allies? What do you not get about it being a problem if they keep Russia in the war??? And they don't provide it in the same way for Ukraine.

And the last point is again stupid, there never was a threat of an intervention in Russia as long as they have nukes just like there won't be one in North Korea, but in Iran. It's just that Russia is sad that they can't pull a Belarus on Ukraine so everyone has to respect their feelings? What is your point? This really grinds my head.

You do understand that Russia would be collapsing right now without Chinese help. They provide all the stuff Russia needs especially dual use goods. China and a bit India not caring about Ukraine keeps Russia running. While breaking ties with the US would remove the power of many us weapons (e.g. the updates on the f16) and the other stuff that is currently brought in from us depots like patriots or information.

Europe shot itself in the knee by not preparing for the continuation of the Ukraine war, so now its only chance is to shoot it in the foot I hope in two years time we are prepared so we don't have to do it again.