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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 170 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

will require identification and photo validation

With all the privacy issues in the past few years, it's "dead on arrival" as they say.

[–] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yup. It will fail spectacularly.

Too bad cuz it could have legit beaten Xitter.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 24 points 3 weeks ago

If distributing child pornography can't get people off Xitter, nothing will.

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

W formerly known as useless garbage nobody asked for.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Any for-profit company will have to comply with this, unfortunately.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But none of them ever asked me for a photo or ID.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 114 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)
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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 54 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

will require identification and photo validation

Straight from the book "How to kill your app before launch", page 1.

data privacy at its core

Looks like they haven't seen the obvious conflict with requiring id + photo, unless they plan on manually review every application.

After reading the article, it sounds like they're just making yet another xitter clone with the hopes that govt figures will use it. Govts could just spin their own mastodon or similars for a similar effect.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup. Nothing and I say nothing makes a service less secure for privacy than requiring your ID and photo. That data will get leaked. It always does.

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[–] bossito@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Considering the amount of bots and trolls everywhere I can see a certain appeal on an app that requires an id verification to be honest.

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

But if they're doing it half-assed as most services (send photo of passport, take a selfie), it won't be a challenge for AI to generate random IDs and a matching avatar for photo/video verification. The only way this could work is if they'd verify your ID by reading the NFC chip inside the passport or ID card.

[–] bossito@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

True. I'd be up for that, but honestly more for a real social network for friends and family, like Facebook once was, than for a debate forum like Twitter. That demand could maybe endure that it would remain a friends only network..

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[–] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 4 points 3 weeks ago

to ensure that its users are [...] who they claim to be

I dont't want that either. Maybe for verified accounts this makes sense, but not for the average shitposter.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 weeks ago

They figured it out. They damn well know they are going to spy on everyone with this.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I hate X, but good luck with this:

The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be,

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Europeans will absolutely not fight back on it and will comply willingly with zero hesitation, unfortunately

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[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 35 points 3 weeks ago

Spyware disguised as a "social media platform", hard pass.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

cough cough Mastodon.

@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 27 points 3 weeks ago

The shit some people will go to to avoid an open platform.

[–] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't this just some random company trying to cash in a little from controversy surrounding Xitter?

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[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

They named themselves W but those draconian ID requirements are an L

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There is no future in social media unless it's decentralized. Gonna assume this is dead on arrival.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Melusine@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 12 points 3 weeks ago

I am staying on mastodon for the micro blogging, not interested in centralized shit. Also, recommander systems are a plague.

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I know Europe might seem like a country of you’re illiterate, but um it isn’t. W is a Swedish company with a dumb idea at the core of its app

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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

For non-believers in that format of social media, is ATProto good or bad?

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

The basic building block of the Fediverse is the instance, right? Every instance is its own self-contained, centralized social media service that optionally interacts with other instances. EG Trump's Truth Social is a Mastodon instance that does not federate.

ATProto takes a more radical approach. Everything is modular. There is no instance or anything that is complete in itself. It's more like the WWW. You can make websites in different ways. These are made findable through search engines like Google or Bing, which are not affiliated with companies offering web hosting.

ATProto takes everything apart. It tries to avoid choke points or lock-in as far as possible to thwart monopolies. You have a server that stores your data (posts, etc ...), called a PDS. You can move your data to a different server. An identity provider tells others where your account is at any moment. A relay collects all the posts that people make and makes them available for further processing. This can be used to create algorithmic feeds, or moderation (aka labelling). These things are independent of each other and can be independently offered by different parties. You can pick and chose which to use, though there isn't a whole lot of choice yet.

ETA: No idea what W wants to offer in that regard.

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[–] architect@thelemmy.club 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Governments making this stuff instead of the people? Really bad idea.

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Oh because people did such a good job the first time?

Anything people make, no mater how good, can and has been purchased to be turned to shit and controlled by those that purchase it. In that world, which is the one we live in now, a government made and publicly used social media service is just about the only way to create a resilient and uncorruptable form of social media. Especially compared to current alternatives that are already getting corrupted.

I'm not saying what they'll make is perfect. But it's far better than any other option we currently have. Knee jerk reacting to assuming it's bad is very much the same crux billionaires used in the US to weaken the government that would otherwise regulate them.

A government is literally the best suited to creating this tech due to its public utility. Same with electricity, water, Emergency services, roads and more. Everyone uses them, so our taxes should go to making those things better.

This is a step in the right direction.

[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

it's far better than any other option we currently have.

We have the Fediverse. Brother, you're literally on it right now.

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Well said. I am certainly here for a reason :)

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[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Anna Zeiter, CEO of W, has told Bilanz.ch that W stands for “We.” Meanwhile, the first of the Vs that make up W stands for “Values,” and the second for “Verified.”

“The fact that W comes before X in the alphabet is certainly also a welcome coincidence,” Zeiter said.

Was curious if the”W” had a deeper meaning to it. Turns out it’s actually two V’s that form a “W”

[–] aeiou@piefed.social 13 points 3 weeks ago

you mean it doesn't stand for Wumbo?

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago

Stupid name, vv, or vave would've been better. Besides, it's not like they'll register v.v as a domain, or even www.w.vv

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[–] PierceTheBubble@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

So a Mastodon ripoff, but its instances hosted by a single entity (effectively centralized): ensuring all instances residing within the European jurisdiction (allowing for full control over it). I don't see how they genuinely believe, to have humans do the photo validation, when competing at the scale of X; especially when you run all the instances. Perhaps they could recruit volunteers to socialize the losses, as the platform privatizes the profits. Nothing but a privacy-centric approach however: said the privacy expert...

Zeiter emphasized that systemic disinformation is eroding public trust and weakening democratic decision-making ... W will be legally the subsidiary of “We Don’t Have Time,” a media platform for climate action ... A group of 54 members of the European Parliament [primarily Greens/EFA, Renew, The Left] called for European alternatives

If that doesn't sound like a recipe, for swinging the pendulum to the other extreme (once more), I don't know what does... Because can you imagine, a modern social media platform, not being a political echo chamber: not promoting extremism by use of filter bubbles, and instead allowing for deescalation through counter argumentation. One would almost start to think, for it all to be intentional: as a deeply divided population will never stand united, against their common oppressor.

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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago
[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

I genuinely thought this was an Onion post.

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