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According to the users in that issue, the mere application of the API is illegal, as is the dependency. Sooo I dunno what kind of PACs there are in the EU but I would be leaning on and contributing to those.

Please don't link to Reddit. Context below:

The EU is currently developing a whitelabel app to perform privacy-preserving (at least in theory) age verification to be adopted and personalized in the coming months by member states. The app is open source and available here: https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui.

Problem is, the app is planning to include remote attestation feature to verify the integrity of the app: https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui?tab=readme-ov-file#disclaimer. This is supposed to provide assurance to the age verification service that the app being used is authentic and running on a genuine operating system. Genuine in the case of Android means:

• The operating system was licensed by Google

• The app was downloaded from the Play Store (thus requiring a Google account)

• Device security checks have passed

While there is value to verify device security, this strongly ties the app to many Google properties and services, because those checks won't pass on an aftermarket Android OS, even those which increase security significantly like GrapheneOS, because the app plans to use Google "Play Integrity", which only allows Google licensed systems instead of the standard Android attestation feature to verify systems.

This also means that even though you can compile the app, you won't be able to use it, because it won't come from the Play Store and thus the age verification service will reject it.

The issue has been raised here https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/10 but no response from team members as of now.

Some people already are

https://map.nycmesh.net/

But the point of LoRa is in the name, long range. Wifi barely reaches outside my house. Also a WiFi mesh is dependent on a variety of complicated and proprietary networks and systems while meshtastic is entirely independent.

Although I personally wouldn't put too much emphasis on "can report you to authorities for any reason". That's true of any third party

Not true of Proton.

I don't see how Lumo will compete with ChatGPT or Gemini

The same way it competes with all their other products; by making it private and open source.

Google does not have the authority to "send the police". They reported content that looked like CSAM and the police did what police do and assumed the guy was a criminal.

The problem is not that they reported it, the problem is that they had it in the first place.

Petitioning people to do something that is against their entire purpose doesn't seem like it would be effective.

It hasn't stopped anyone from using ChatGPT, which has become their biggest competitor since the inception of web search.

So yes, it's dumb, but they kind of have to do it at this point. And they need everyone to know it's available from the site they're already using, so they push it on everyone.

Right, how does this image relate to that?

I know what rule 34 is, I'm asking where this image came from

It doesn't dismiss anything. It's just a statement of fact. Certainly in certain contexts it could be interpreted that way.

What's Rule34?