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[–] data1701d@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago

Luckily, I can probably live with using mine a few more years. Mine's an early AM4 system with a Ryzen 5 2600 in it. My CPU performance isn't a huge bottleneck (although I'd like a couple more cores for faster compilation).

Really, it's my graphics card. The 580's fine for some basic gaming, but it sort of got left in the dust with ROCm support - it's kind-of-sort-of supported, but not well enough for Blender to work with it.

I think the situation's improved with ROCm on consumer GPUs enough now that so long as I buy a newer card, I should be fine. Debian support's improved a lot as well - for many GPUs, it should just be a matter of sudo apt install hipcc now. However, Debian is still a few versions behind in experimental and doesn't support the latest AMD cards, but I suspect that getting it packaged was the hard part, and that once Trixie releases, Forky/Testing will catch up in a few months.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I didn’t even know there were still cases bundled with power supplies! But yes, in general, throughout the history of PC building, I’m pretty sure included power supplies in any brand tend to be very low wattage. The power supply probably isn’t even broken - I’m just guessing the PC’s was upgraded to an RX 580, and the RX 580 was more power hungry than the original graphics card and the power supply just wasn’t designed for it.

Just a tip - next time you build or upgrade a PC, use this tool to estimate what power supply you need; https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator

You can get a 700 watt PSU that should work in the $50-70 range, although honestly, it might be worth it to go a bit bigger so you can cannibalize it for a future build when the time comes - even the RX 580, which is newer than your CPU, is getting a bit old and I hope to replace it if I build a new PC in 2028.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 3 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Just to clarify, this almost certainly won't be better on Mint for several reasons. One, PopOS! and Mint are both based on Ubuntu, so they would likely run into a lot of the same issues. I also have an RX 580, and while I haven't used either of these distros on that machine, I have run Debian Testing for several years, and since both these distros descend from Debian, I have run similar package versions and would likely have known years ago if a major bug occurred for my GPU.

As said by @Mordikan@kbin.earth below, I would be inclined to check the power supply, and maybe even make sure the PCIe card is properly seated.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've been running with an RX 580 on my desktop with Debian Testing for three years, and I've had no problems like this.

I'm running with a 750W power supply, so I'm inclined to agree that the the OP should pop open their PC case and check their wattage. Assuming this is an ATX box, it's probably just a matter of removing two screws and sliding off the side of the case and reading the wattage. If it's a reasonable wattage and it's still giving issues, then try the aforementioned undervolting.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 7 months ago

I think that's true, but permissions might come into play and really cause pain; it's probably best to just reinstall.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 11 points 7 months ago

Scared

On a more serious note, as others have said, you'll probably burn through these weird storage limitations quickly.

Also, what do you mean by "sensitive matters" on Mint? Because almost any way you spin it, I feel like it's not a great idea:

  • If you're talking professional, confidential work with clients, keeping it on the same device where you do anything personal sounds like a terrible idea, and it's probably worth it to shell out for a dedicated device just for this.
  • If it's more personal things like government documents, medical records, and other things I'll neglect to name here, running a separate operating system just for those just feels like unnecessary paranoia and will cause you unnecessary trouble. If you're careful, it shouldn't be a problem - the major browsers prevent file access through protections against cross-site scripting.

Also, as I said in another comment here, please upgrade that drive before you put a lot of data on it. If you don't and you run out of storage later (a near-certainty on 256GB), you'll have to go through the effort of getting everything copied, which may include equipment purchases and several hours of your time when you could jut do it right now while your important files are still small enough to fit on a flash drive right now. Save yourself the future trouble.

Anyhow, I wish you happy Linux usage.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is less like buying a bigger car and more like upgrading the stereo in the car - 256GB in 2025 is somewhat akin to having only AM radio, and I've found it gets annoying real fast when doing anything serious.

I would hesitate to put anything smaller than 1 TB in something that's supposed to be a daily driver.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Assuming she hasn’t bought it yet, please research that Yoga first. It might work fine, but it could also end up being a miserable experience.

You can check https://linux-hardware.org/ for the model or a similar one.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 5 points 7 months ago

No, I mean TinyCore literally would run out of RAM during boot. Laugh

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Like others have said, Debian probably isn’t a bad idea.

I feel like it would be kind of stupid to run a full-on desktop environment even though technically possible, though - I think this is a good use for IceWM.

Also, at worst, you might have a really low power server.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I think less than 64MB is difficult these days - a few years ago, I was backing up a laptop with 48MB of RAM, and to get a minimal Linux terminal running on it, I had to create a custom Buildroot image and throw it on a CD. TinyCore was too much for it.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago

A more apt comparison would be using the Windows guest to remote into the Linux host via xorg piping, waypipe, VNC, RDP, etcetera, which conveys your feeling of weirdness while being a closer approximation of what this really does.

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