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[–] MrAlternateTape@lemm.ee 36 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The problem is people are only going to change their behaviour once the consequences hit them, and with global warming, the consequences won't really hit them until a long time later.

The second problem is the consequences are dramatic. And very hard if not impossible to turn around.

To really get people and companies to change their behaviour, we would need an immediate consequence to behaviour that is bad for the environment.

Bottom line is, some people try, some people don't give a shit, and in the end we will have to deal with it.

I hope governments are watching carefully, we will need to keep a lot of water away from us in the future, and we'll have to deal with the changing climate too.

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Governments will fail. Wherever unpopular "Green" Measures are implemented, the right-wing cockroaches appear, destroying any discourse.

The consequence will be a global war by stupid populists who think that is one solution (which it kind of is,... Dead people won't emit CO2)

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In the Netherlands a number of cities were banning fossil fuel for deliveries in the city. It was in planning for years, easing into implementation.

Our new government just scrapped all of those plans because the largest party doesn't believe in climate change, and another party in the coalition is the "farmer's movement" party and opposes environmental regulations.

😢

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Something kinda funny about people in the netherlands not caring about climate change.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's probably not very funny to all the people in the Netherlands who are not right-wing idiots. Sounds like the Netherlands are experiencing something like Florida: when the problems get really urgent and bad, half the population fights hard to prevent action and preserve their delusion that everything's fine.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

We’ll have a big environmental 9/11 moment where a major American city becomes permanently uninhabitable and then there will alot of handwringing about “What could we have done!?” Then we’ll start getting lukewarm serious about it for maybe a few years, but by that point it’s way too late.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

So far, we have smaller towns wiped off the face of the earth and can’t seem to figure out they should be moved rather than rebuilt

people are only going to change their behaviour once the consequences hit them

Or if there's a proper incentive to change. We're seeing that incentive today with solar becoming cheaper than other energy sources, so it's getting a lot of adoption. We do incentivize those, but they're honestly about at the point where we don't need subsidies to get people to switch, and the subsidies merely accelerate adoption.

I'm a perennial optimist, and I'm confident we'll continue to innovate our way out of problems. We'll be late like we always are, but we'll also innovate ways to "catch up." Maybe we'll mess w/ geoengineering in the arctic (we're already experimenting w/ cloud seeding and thickening glaciers), or maybe we'll come up with other options in the future. I honestly don't know, but what I do know is that once we're convinced there is a problem, we do a pretty good job of solving that problem. Look at COVID vaccine development, lead poisoning, or recovery of endangered species.

We're usually late, but we are also pretty good at engineering our way out of problems. Solutions probably end up costing more than they would with prevention, but I'm confident we will come up with solutions, it just might take a bit of... encouragement from mother nature.