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Apple’s first Mac mini redesign in 14 years looks like a big aluminum Apple TV (arstechnica.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago by some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Its not, you can build your own mini pc with a ryzen 9700X, more ram, more storage, and it would probrally cost less. In addition you wouldn't be locked into the Apple ecosystem and you would be able to upgrade it.

[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Some people like the Apple ecosystem.

[–] ilega_dh@feddit.nl 4 points 3 weeks ago

Same, I loved building my own PC but I also have a Mac mini because Macs just ✨fucking work✨ always

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, let's put together a mini PC with a ryzen 9700X for under $600. What case, power supply, motherboard, RAM, and SSD are we gonna get? How's it compare on power, sound, form factor?

It's an apples to oranges comparison, and at a certain point you're comparing different things.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Case/mothedboard: minisforum ms-a1
Power supply: external
Ram: ddr5l (sold separately)
ssd: pcie gen 5
power: slightly worse single core performance (can be overclocked) slightly better multi core performance (with a better AM5 CPU)

My point isnt that Apple sucks and nobody should ever buy it, my point is that you're paying an Apple premium for a fully assembled computer. That premium is greater over time since you cannot upgrade it, meanwhile every part of the minisforum ms-a1 can be. Its convenience and a premium product vs freedom and upgradability. I cannot say that every person does or should value freedom but I do and thats my opinion.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So with the case/mobo/power supply at $259, the CPU/GPU at $329, you've got $11 left to work with to buy RAM and SSD, in order to be competitive with the base model Mac Mini.

That's what I mean. If you're gonna come close to competing with the entry level price of the Mac Mini (to say nothing of frequent sales/offers/coupons that Best Buy, Amazon, B&H, and Costco run), you'll have to sacrifice and use a significantly lower-tier CPU. Maybe you'd rather have more RAM/storage and are OK with that lower performing CPU, and twice the power consumption (around 65W rather than 30W), but at that point you're basically comparing a different machine.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

You're comparing entry level when the preformace (and price) is more comparable to the M4 Pro. I agree the entry level model cant be beaten on price but the higher model isnt a good value.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Sure. And you can buy a dirt bike cheaper than an ATV. Yet people still buy ATVs.

I’m not gonna do iOS dev or ML on a GMKtec no matter how cost-effective it is, just like I’m not gonna play x86 Windows games on a Mac even if I win a maxed-out unit in a giveaway.