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[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 195 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Ah hahahaha!!!!

Windows! Some dumbass put Windows on a supercomputer!

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 72 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] Allero@lemmy.today 63 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Ironically, even Microsoft uses Linux in its Azure datacenters, iirc

[–] dan@upvote.au 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They use a mixture of Windows and Linux. They do use Linux quite a bit, but they also have a lot of Hyper-V servers.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 5 points 4 days ago

True. Never meant to say they use Linux exclusively; thanks for clarification anyway!

[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Apple uses both Linux and Windows (not for datacenters) too.

[–] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 19 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Good point.

But still, the 30% efficient supercomputer.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Heh. I don't think that number was ever official, but I heard it as well.

[–] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Oh that was hyperbole, I didn't expect to be taken literally!

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 points 12 hours ago

Lol. Well good guess.

I'm not a primary source or anything, of course. Your comment just matches something I heard once in office gossip.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

Heh. I don't think that number was ever official, but I heard it as well.

[–] AscendantSquid@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

I don't think either of the chart's axes list efficiency?

[–] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago

Probably need one, just for the benchmark comparisons.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

And Mac! Whatever that means 🤣

[–] Thaurin@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A supercomputer running Windows HPC Server 2008 actually ranked 23 in TOP500 in June 2008.

[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I always forget that Windows Server even exists, because the name is so stupid. "windows" should mean "gui ~~interface~~ to os."

edit: fixed redundacy.

[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

But Windows Server has GUI. Although a server having GUI (not webui, desktop) is kinda stupid

[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd say having a GUI is not inherently stupid. The stupid part is, if I understand it correctly, the GUI being a required component and the primary access method.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah. Thankfully, Windows server cleaned up that stupidity starting around 2006 and finished in around 2018.

Which all sounds fine until we meditate on the history that basically all other server operating systems have had efficient remote administration solutions since before 1995 (reasonable solutions existed before SSH, even).

Windows was over 20 years late to adopt non-grapgical low latency (aka sane) options for remote administration.

I think it's a big part of the reason Windows doesn't appear much on this chart.

[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The GUI is optional these days, and there's plenty of Windows servers that don't use it. The recommended administration approach these days is PowerShell remoting, often over SSH now that Windows has a native SSH server bundled (based on OpenSSH).

[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That gives me the idea of windows server installed on bare metal configured as a lightweight game runner. (much like a linux distro with minimal wm)

I've seen people using slightly modified windows server as an unbloated gaming OS but I'm not sure if running a custom minimal GUI on windows server is possible. You seem knowledgeable on the subject, with enough effort, is it possible?

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 3 days ago

I don't think I know enough to answer that question, sorry!