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[–] thundermoose@lemmy.world 62 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I'm in the same boat as you. I'd love to switch but the user experience of Jellyfin is still pretty bad outside the most basic cases. If you have a media center PC, it's fine, but if you want to be able to switch between several devices the way you can with Netflix, it's quite poor.

Plex is slowly trending down and Jellyfin is slowly trending up. I hope Jellyfin outpaces Plex before the enshittification is complete, but it's a steep hill to climb.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The big thing for me is privacy and control.

Plex requires Cloud access via accounts.

This is a sitting duck for subpoenas to mass punish media libraries once copyright holders get a more friendly government that cares less about citizens rights (which is coming up here soon).

Nothing about my jelly fin instance leaks my information to anyone else's servers.

You can't say the same about Plex.

[–] thundermoose@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with you, however Jellyfin is not intrinsically more secure than any other piece of software. You have to be very careful how you go about deploying it if you open up external access, as you are dependent on the Jellyfin devs to fix vulnerabilities and they aren't actually being paid to do this. If you're paranoid about privacy, you should be paranoid about this too; the people sending subpoenas aren't above port-scans on ISP subscribers, they did it back in the early days of torrents.

You get control and privacy, but you also get responsibility. It's a trade-off, and one I'd certainly make if Jellyfin were more mature. That's just me though, I've been hosting my own stuff for about a decade now and I can set up an isolated environment for Jellyfin to run within. Plex is a lot more newbie-friendly and I'd still recommend it for most folks unless they for sure know what they're doing.

As an aside, these concerns are common to all FOSS software that don't have deep-pocketed backers. Jellyfin is likely never getting those, unfortunately. I hope they can find some other way of sustaining themselves, they've not got much money for the scale of development needed and it's all volunteer-driven today.

https://opencollective.com/jellyfin

I want them to keep going, and I've even donated to them. I still don't think it's at a place to replace Plex for most people yet though.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 4 points 14 hours ago

The way I do it with webservices is that I serve them all from virtual hosts. Scan my IP on port port 80? 301 moved permanently to same host port 443. 443? Welcome to nginx! Which webservice is actually served depends on the hostname being requested. The hostnames are just part of a wildcard subdomain with a matching wildcard certificate, so you can't derive the hosts from the blank landing page's cert. Though one option would be to disable https when no matching virtual host is found.

I know this isn't protection against sophisticated attackers, but nobody uses my home services except me when I'm not home so the exposure is very limited.

Anyhow, with Plex you have a central provider who, if I'm not mistaken, knows a lot about how their customers use their product. The angle of attack is different.

[–] thisfro@slrpnk.net 25 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

How does it not work for you? I use it on my phone, laptop, ipad, kodi, ... without issues

[–] thundermoose@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Switching between wasn't seamless, it kept forgetting where I left off on the last device, which was pretty annoying. Also, mobile/remote connectivity was spotty for me. Never got to the bottom of that, but my best guess is Plex's relay system makes up for a lot of random network issues. My best work-around was to add my phone to tailscale, but obviously that's not a great solution and won't work for a lot of devices.

Overall, my impression was that Plex is a lot more polished. I also bought a lifetime membership years ago, so I have no incentive to switch to something that isn't better. Plex isn't perfect, but it was still better than Jellyfin as of a few months ago. I honestly hope that changes soon, I have zero faith in Plex as a company.

[–] thisfro@slrpnk.net 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

The switching thing is really weird, for me it is always saved across devices and I can just play from where I was on the other device. But maybe that is a newer feature that wasn't yet there when you tried it.

Overall, my impression was that Plex is a lot more polished

That I can understand, but with plex trying to be a streaming provider themselves, it makes it very confusing for not so tech-savvy people

I also have a plex lifetime pass beacuse it was really the only option like 10 years ago and it was pretty solid. I run plex and jellyfin in parallel now and some of my friends use jellyfin, others plex. I myself almost only use jellyfin at the moment and it works pretty well for me

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate on how it's poor in that regard? That's how I and many of my friends use it, and none of us have had any issues relating to that.

[–] thundermoose@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

I see. I've never had an issue with it forgetting my spot in a show, and as far as I know my friends haven't either. Haven't had connectivity issues either.