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[–] asudox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It would be great if XMPP were to rise again.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It went out of popularity for a reason. I'd love a new protocol with XMPP's mistakes fixed.

BTW, OMEMO highlights one of those - it's not as good as Signal by which it is inspired. Basically no metadata protection, which means that it's as good as OTR with multiple devices.

Some kind of Signal with federation (and good clients, not like signal-desktop) would be interesting. Maybe even p2p with some kind of relays (like in NOSTR) for history, offline messages, some kind of Telegram channels and such.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Look into Session. I didn't like it but it checks your boxes

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lol no. I like being able to send messages to someone who isn't online at the same time

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting xmpp can't do that? XD

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Asynchronous communication is dependent on both users servers software and config. And that's exactly why XMPP is disused.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure there's an option you can disable in server software to disable message storage. Why stop at this?

XMPP can't federate because there's an option for disabling that too! 😧

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Its the other way around. Asynchronous communication was a feature added later in some software. By default it didn't have it

I'm saying it'd a deal breaker if all users dont have asynchronous communication.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

You're technically correct but that was two decades ago. Novadays virtually every featured server passes the Conversations compliance test which continuously checks if all modern features are enabled.