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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 71 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I love self-checkout. Faster, don't have to rush because someone is waiting for me, don't have to interact with people, can easily double check it had the correct price etc. They're fantastic

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's faster until you need the human operator to keep coming over because the anti-theft sensors keep getting tripped up by false positive readings. Or you need to find some vegetable code that a normal cashier has memorized.

Self checkout is great when it's done well, and total shit when poorly executed. And unfortunately, it's not always just a matter of technology (which normally keeps improving); it's often a matter of business model: sometimes customer convenience is really important, other times loss prevention (which creates frustration) is more important.

I've seen countless good self-checkout experiences backslide into crap experience because the business felt that a controlled client is more profitable than a convenienced client.

[–] SilverFlame@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Fun fact: PLU's (Product Lookup Units) are searchable on Google, though it'll look like you're just on your phone while at the register

[–] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hear this argument frequently but I'm curious how often does this happen to you where you need assistance? I've used SCO for as long as it's been around and I could probably count on 1 hand missing some fingers where I needed help. Sure back in the day with the faulty scales that kept tripping it was rough but manageable. I don't say any of this with malice I'm just curious if it's you or if you speak of a lot of people. If it's the later wouldn't it just make sense that maybe all the people struggling may just have difficulties with technology as a whole and not just the SCO?

I truly mean no ill intent or hatred as I ask these types of questions as a way to learn and grasp the realities of others since no one person can know and see all.

[–] numberfour002@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In the USA at least, any time you buy alcohol, tobacco, or any number of other random things that the retailer decides to flag as requiring ID, then you'll need assistance from a cashier. Random things include razor blades, compressed air, some herbal supplements, spray paint, butane torches, or any of dozens of other items. Any time you accidentally scan something twice, you'll need a cashier's assistance. Any time something rings up the wrong price or any time the UPC doesn't scan, you'll need a cashier's assistance. Also, if you're buying gift cards, you may need a cashier's assistance.

Also, different stores have different machines and different machines work better than others. Many places have ridiculously sensitive machines that freeze up if so much as a fruit fly farts on it. Some places use "AI cameras" to detect theft, which basically the algorithm for that seems to be "If (customer scanned something OR customer didn't scan something) then (theft, so freeze and call cashier for assistance)".

So, the frequency is highly variable. For some stores, I can usually manage to get by with almost never needing assistance. For others, it's practically every visit.

[–] ARg94@lemmy.packitsolutions.net 6 points 10 months ago

This is an important point. The execution of self-checkout seems to vary widely. I have only experienced poor executions like you described. I think a scan and go system sounds great and I would interested to see one tested at a shop in my area.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

At my grocery store the line for self checkout is longer than for the registers, so people would very much be waiting for you. And instead of the time the cashier takes to scan all your stuff being out of your control, they'll judge you personally for being slow instead.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even with the same lenght line, in here you'd get through much faster because instead of lining up for the one register you're lining up to several self-checkouts

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But the people at the self checkouts do it at a fourth of the speed, so it cancels out. Plus the line for the self checkouts is four times as long anyway.

Although it's not always easy to predict how long something takes. Self checkout is less vulnerable to someone paying in all nickels or having an issue with their food stamps. I'll take that chance to not have to stand there and guess what species of banana I'm trying to buy, though.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not here, people at the self check-outs go fast because they usually have less stuff and slower boomers are afraid of them anyway so they'll be out of your way.

I'll take that chance to not have to stand there and guess what species of banana I'm trying to buy, though.

Here you weight your vegetables, fruits, candies in the shop before you go to the checkout. Apart from Lidl which has either the cashier weighting them for you at the register or you'll weight them at the checkout. But it's the odd one out

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I remember we weighed our own vegetables in Norway in the 90s. It stopped when they got the fancy registers which scanned barcodes and had a built-in scale.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hope they don't change it here. I like weighing my own stuff. Nicer to check how much I got and no need to remember what sort of tomatoes I got since the number is in the price tag. And no way for the cashier to fuck me over by weighing them as a pricier thing.

Spanish tomatoes for the price of Finnish ones? Get the fuck out of here! What do I look like, fucking Croesus??

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

You've presumably had registers with barcodes for several decades now, so I'm guessing your way of weighing produce is pretty safe.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

they'll judge you personally for being slow instead.

If you're slow because you're old or disabled, it is what it is. I might even help if I'm up front.

If you're tired or something but clearly trying, it is what it is, people judging you are the dicks.

If you're on your cell phone, or not paying attention, or so incapable of reading that you have to call over a Walmart employee to tell you that yes, that says napkins on the monitor (actual thing I saw once and yes it's cuz she couldn't read, she said so): you deserve the judging.