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Non-US alternatives to digital services (lemmy.ml)
submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by JOMusic@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world
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From a practical standpoint, the country that hosts many digital services is undergoing rapid political change. For awareness of non-US alternatives, check out:

https://switching.software/

https://european-alternatives.eu/alternatives-to

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[–] philpo@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Posteo is another alternative for Mail that a lot of people overlook.(And far more "real privacy" than fucking Proton)

Bitwarden sadly still is a US company and while it hosts in EU as well, some might not think this is enough. In that case Vaultwarden can be selfhosted easily.

It is not that much work to actually get rid of most possibly unreliable US services,but it's far more work to get other people to switch as not all services are interoperable yet....

[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 2 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Question: why would you store passwords with an external service?

I have a local database synched with SyncThing between phones and computers and an external copy on a server.

[–] philpo@feddit.org 1 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

And your local database is encrypted?

Vaultwarden is selfhosted and audited.

Besides: Not everyone wants to selfhost and not everyone should self host.

[–] designated_fridge@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Especially a password vault... Imagine your server going down while you are away from home and suddenly you're locked out of everything.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Sometimes I need a password when I don't have my devices with me, and logging into the Bitwarden web vault is super convenient. Also, everything is encrypted on the client, and the client is FOSS, so there's very little risk.

You can also host your own Bitwarden server, or use an independent alternative (Vaultwarden).

Bitwarden provides a lot of convenience without much compromise.

[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for your explanation!

I exclusively log in on my phones or computers, so the devices which have the copies of the database. (With a backup to an external server under my control.)

[–] philpo@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago

And then your house burns down,you get robbed or the cops come and take your devices away.

[–] JOMusic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good points. I do believe Bitwarden is open-source though, so it can probably be forked off into a version that doesn't host data in the US.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago

You can always self-host it as well.