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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 40 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Consider buying a previous generation card. You can sometimes find good deals on used ones.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For years now the prices on this year’s latest cards are so high that I don’t know who buys them. I can afford to spend $1000 but I never would when I can probably get 85% of the performance for $250.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, what GPU is getting 85% of a 5080's performance at $250? Genuine question.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That was genuinely pulled out of my ass. Not a benchmark comparison. It's just my perception that cards only get incrementally better each year, but "this year's card" is always proportionally much more expensive for what you get. Few games actually demand the very latest and greatest, so I don't know why people would ever pay the premium for the latest and greatest.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, gotcha. I haven't been looking for GPUs for a few years now, so I was low-key excited that there was actually a deal that good.

But yeah, I agree that the last couple gens of flagship GPUs are vastly overkill for 95% of games.

[–] 50_centavos@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What games are the 5% that need a 5090 to enjoy? I can run any game on the market right now at a minimum 1080p 60fps on my 3060.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't say you "need a 5090 enjoy the other 5% of games," the implication is performance. And no, I highly doubt your 3060 is not doing that. With lowered settings and no ray tracing on some games, sure. When we're talking about flagship GPUs, the idea is that people buy them to be able to run at 1440p/4k, higher graphics settings, and maintain at least stable 60+fps.

There's games right now that even a 4090 struggles to run on maxed settings at 4k and stay above 60fps at all times. However, DLSS 3+ and similar tech saves the day with frame gen and upscaling. Developers just need to optimize their shit.

And if you don't care about graphics at all, then of course this is all irrelevant and participating in this discussion is completely pointless.

[–] 50_centavos@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

If somebody doesn't need to play at 4k 60fps doesn't mean they don't care about graphics at all.

There are graphics settings in between maxed out and bare minimum for a reason. I guess whatever floats your boat. I couldn't justify spending 2000 on GPU plus another 1000 on a CPU + monitor just so I can go from 1080p to 4k. Does that mean I don't care about graphics? No, it just means I don't value 4k over 1080p at a $3000 price tag. I'm "fortunate" (if that's what you call wage labor) enough that I could afford it, but it's just not a priority for me.

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

And the same applies to smartphones since a while ago.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah. I bought a 3060 on eBay for $240 a few weeks ago. Works great.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Brand new Intel ARC B580 puts up numbers in the 4060 range and only costs around $250

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I usually buy AMD for their open-source support. I wanted nvidia this time around to fiddle with AI stuff, which is better-supported on nvidia right now.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee -5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

fiddle with AI stuff

I.e. one of the same things that causing gouging on GPUs and the market to be pushed out of gamers hands.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 13 points 1 day ago

This person is a consumer, just like you. Your gaming is no more important than their fiddling. Your angst is pointed in the wrong direction.

[–] AngryMob@lemmy.one 10 points 1 day ago

People at home using their gpus for a mix of gaming and local ai are not really the source of that issue

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was upgrading anyway. My RX 580 wasn't cutting it for games any more.

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 6 points 1 day ago

This is what I got from the article as well. Jesus, buy a previous gen GPU and fiddle a bit with your graphic settings, it’s just games, not life or death.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I actually had thought of that too, but see my reply to someone else further below:

https://lemmy.world/comment/15537041

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago

Good luck finding a used one that isn't barely on its last legs from being poorly OC'd/cooled, or is just an outright brick that burned out in a crypto mining farm and is now being resold by a shell entity of a shell entity of a shell entity on Amazon or Ebay.