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I tried Waymo when I was visiting LA a few months ago. Genuinely terrific stuff.
I do not trust Teslas one bit though.
Tesla doesn't use lidar for its sensing, living on the prayer that AI will just get good enough soon enough. Absolutely galaxy brained decision.
waymo's have almost hit me like three times, and if i were slower, they would have. you are part of the problem. those are killing machines.
How? Do you just walk into the road without looking or something?
yeah, only way it could have happened; has to be the victim's fault because they totally always respect crosswalks.
how much do they pay you?
Yeah, I definitely think you're leaving some details out here.
I'm surrounded by waymos every time I go out and I can tell you that if they "almost hit you" three times then that's very likely a you problem -- and a reason for more waymos, not fewer.
Anecdotally, only once have I been in a situation where I've said, "do better, robot" because I was slightly inconvenienced by it.
By the numbers there are very few waymo incidents compared to human drivers and those include waymos being hit by bicyclists who aren't paying attention.
"if something almost does grievous bodily harm to you, we need more of it, keep playing those odds!"? that seems like a request for me to be harmed.
Again, based on experience, and the data, if you were exposed to "grievous bodily harm" then it seems like you should change something.
I don't know you so I'm not going to suggest you're making up how you feel about the situation but you definitely don't sound like you're expressing an accurate representation of reality.
have you ever been hit by a car? maybe try it sometime before you talk about this shit, because you're being really casual, and I cannot stress how unpleasant an experience it is.
Uhh, think you could rephrase this so it doesn't sound like you're rooting for the Waymo in any Waymo-bicycle accident?
I'm not rooting for anyone in any collision. Everyone should pay attention and drive responsibly.
almost. Human driver would hit you in similar scenarios probably.
almost because I dodged.
If these vehicles don't need to obey the procedural laws that are supposed to keep me safe, why should I refrain from smashing them with a hammer, or taking them apart and selling the pieces, or making cool sculptures out of them?
aside from being profoundly lazy, of course.
Where were you that you had to dodge a Waymo? Were you walking down the middle of the road or something?
yeah it has to be the victim's fault. they totally respect crosswalks. how much do they pay you?
We've heard one side of the story, about a very unlikely series of events. I do think that person is leaving out a few details.
data > your personal anecdotes. Get real dude.
these companies do not provide data. they provide blatantly doctored ad copy.
and the engineers that design them have said there's no way to make them follow traffic rules perfectly. that they do often sacrifice safety for efficiency when the choice can be made.
What are you even on about tin foil. Waymos are on the road - how is this data doctored? You can literally see that it's safer than human driving in this exact environment.
Lmao, you can literally see? So anecdotal evidence? What happened you the data you were just promoting?
Dude just google it there are many papers already. Can't be bothered wirh ludites like you bye
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