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[–] VampirePenguin@midwest.social 144 points 5 days ago (17 children)

Bluesky is a for-profit company that is capitalizing on the Xodus. They may be better for the time being, but the march for more and more profit will end the same as it always does. Enshittification. They are not the good guys, the fediverse is.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago (12 children)

They are not the good guys, the fediverse is.

I think you're overselling the Fediverse here. The Fediverse also absolutely has censorship, it's just by individual instance admins instead of a for-profit company. If large, influential instances shut down or defederate, a lot of content goes with it.

Yeah, federated instances technically cache that data, but those communities are effectively dead, links are broken, etc. Users can jump to other services, sure, but the service isn't the same.

We've seen this here on Lemmy. Beehaw was a cool instance, but they defederated fairly early on. Lemmy.ml was super impactful, but their admins are super aggressive with moderation to the point that many avoid their communities. And so on.

Whether "the Fediverse" is good depends on your instance and the mods and admins of the various communities you are part of. That kind of sucks.

Maybe it sucks less than whatever major social media network you're comparing to, but I hesitate to call it "good," just different.

[–] VampirePenguin@midwest.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For sure. Not that we don't have problems, but corporate overlords mining our data or censoring us for political back scratching aren't among them. That's all imma trying to say.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Nothing is really stopping them from mining your data on Lemmy, all they need is to create an instance and federate, and then get can hoover up whatever they want.

Censorship is more difficult, sure. But we're still subject to whatever arbitrary censorship the mods and admins want.

I think the Fediverse is on net better, but I do think the model has many other problems, and that it's more of a stepping stone to something better. But being "better" doesn't mean we're "good" and the other options are "bad," it just means we make different tradeoffs. There's a very real risk of large instances shutting down because the admins lost interest, for example, and that's less of a concern for a for-profit operation.

I guess my point is to not oversell the Fediverse. It's cool, hence why I'm here, but it's far from perfect.

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