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Bluesky has started honoring takedown requests from Turkish government (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by boramalper@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Original post: https://bsky.app/profile/ssg.dev/post/3lmuz3nr62k26

Email from Bluesky in the screenshot:

Hi there,

We are writing to inform you that we have received a formal request from a legal authority in Turkey regarding the removal of your account associated with the following handle (@carekavga.bsky.social) on Bluesky.

The legal authority has claimed that this content violates local laws in Turkey. As a result, we are required to review the request in accordance with local regulations and Bluesky's policies.

Following a thorough review, we have determined that the content in question violates local laws in Turkey, as outlined in the legal request. In compliance with these legal provisions, we have restricted access to your account for users.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 day ago (7 children)

i don't get why this is shocking; if you do business in a country you have to follow local laws.

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Honestly at this point I want to host a distributed Lemmy instance and completely ignore all country laws in favor of complete and absolute freedom of speech.

It might sound extreme, but pretty sure at this point I'd be willing to die for it given the state of global politics.

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[–] Ravenfreak@discuss.online 6 points 1 day ago

I'm not even surprised lol. Just another reason why communities like Lemmy and forums are better than any social media platform. Man I hope the Fediverse keeps growing, the more people that see through this bs and jump ship and find us over here in the Fediverse the better.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 97 points 2 days ago

And now you know why corporations and politicians don't use mastodon

[–] Wimster@lemmy.wtf 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is Bluesky the next X ??? Kissing the ring of authoritarian leaders?

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Remove one Turk from the service or remove the entire service from Turkey?

Essentially the question Bluesky executives had to make here.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

they all exist in the same world and they will all need to figure out how to make money sooner or later

[–] cotlovan@lemm.ee 84 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wow, all the bsky lovers are now facing the reality. None of the corpos have user's interest in mind. They only care about numbers: number of active users' data that they can sell to the highest bidder.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any service provider, private or corporate, must comply with the law. Otherwise the service provider will face the consequences.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 77 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Fake Fediverse is fake.

Fuck Turkey and fuck however they want it spelt.

[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Re: "(...) fuck however they want it spelt."

As a Turkish person, I'm with you on this.

If the Turkish government wants you to refer to Turkey as Türkiye, then they shouldn't be allowed to call the US "Amerika Birleşik Devletleri": they should be required to pronounce it United States of America.

Let's see how they like it then, lol. "Yunayıted Sıtets af Amerika", hah.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's also quite awkward requiring others to spell the country with letters that don't exist in most alphabets, and therefore not on commonly used keyboards.

Sure you can make use of ü and others with some international layouts, but for laypeople it's rather cumbersome.

Imagine China would suddenly require everyone spelling it as 中国， nobody would even be able pronounce it, let alone write.

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago

The bird was named after the country. So if they want to be called Türkiye, that means we'll be having türkiye for Thanksgiving from now on.

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[–] VampirePenguin@midwest.social 141 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Bluesky is a for-profit company that is capitalizing on the Xodus. They may be better for the time being, but the march for more and more profit will end the same as it always does. Enshittification. They are not the good guys, the fediverse is.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (12 children)

They are not the good guys, the fediverse is.

I think you're overselling the Fediverse here. The Fediverse also absolutely has censorship, it's just by individual instance admins instead of a for-profit company. If large, influential instances shut down or defederate, a lot of content goes with it.

Yeah, federated instances technically cache that data, but those communities are effectively dead, links are broken, etc. Users can jump to other services, sure, but the service isn't the same.

We've seen this here on Lemmy. Beehaw was a cool instance, but they defederated fairly early on. Lemmy.ml was super impactful, but their admins are super aggressive with moderation to the point that many avoid their communities. And so on.

Whether "the Fediverse" is good depends on your instance and the mods and admins of the various communities you are part of. That kind of sucks.

Maybe it sucks less than whatever major social media network you're comparing to, but I hesitate to call it "good," just different.

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[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 65 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So. When ever I post my families genocide story as Armenians in The Ottoman empire. There’s always a Turk to call me a liar online. Then they get you banned from the sub because they have people injected into mod teams. Pretty disgusting experience. Also happened with Azerbaijani posters to. Interesting how deep they injected themselves in Reddit.

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[–] ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 157 points 2 days ago (38 children)

Funny as I got downvoted to oblivion for saying Bluesky was not really decentralized.

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[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 72 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (22 children)

Don't replace X with Bluesky! Go to Mastodon and other Federalised platforms. That is the only way to escape corporate-sponsored fascism.

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[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Watching how quickly all these companies crumble, it really is astonishing the Obama and Clinton didn't take on Fox News for all it's bullshit.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago

Corpos aren't afraid of the Democrats. They own them.

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[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 300 points 3 days ago (101 children)

pardon my ignorance, but how is a de-centralized and de-federated online community bound to such annoyances?

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 196 points 3 days ago (23 children)

They're still a corporate entity, and they still want access to markets to make money.

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[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Can Turkey ask for any account/post to be banned regardless of where a post was written? For example, if I were to register there and called Erdogan a dictator who suppresses the Turks by breaking down the media and justice system and he is taking political prisoners; could he then ask BlueSky to get my account removed because i'm breaking a law in Turkey even though I am not in Turkey? That sounds totally crazy. Like from now on you can make laws on your citizens, your lands and all of the internet? What the fu. e: typo

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