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Just to be clear, I do think the obvious solution to terrible things like this is vastly expanded public transit so that people don't have to rely on cars to get everywhere, not overhyped technology and driving aids that are still only marginally better than a human driver. I just thought the article was interesting.

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[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Trains? We've been using those for over a century now.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (5 children)

They don't help with last mile.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Have you considered more trains?

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Sure! let's put train lines in every other street! Brilliant!

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have an HO gauge rail that takes me from my couch to the refrigerator.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you very small, or is it a lot of HO track and engines?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's like the crawler that takes launch vehicles to the launching pad at Cape Canaveral.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago
[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

There are a lot of other neat inventions that deal with that.

The problem with traffic is caused by lack of investment in public transportation. Have a look at how they solved it in Paris.

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago

The last mile can be 25 mph. That alone will eliminate 99% of traffic deaths, especially if the roads are designed to make it uncomfortable to go above 25 mph.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More trains, trams, bicycle and/or e-scooter rentals, walking (a mile is what, 20 minutes walk at most?)

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Trains?! For last mile?!
Trams, sure, smaller buses that run more often too. More routes.
Bicycles et al so long as they pay insurance, have a plate and know the traffic rules like everyone else - and preferably put them in their own lanes when possible.
Walking... if you have time and physical ability, but who cares about that, right? It's so cool and eco-friendly to say "just walk 20 minutes".

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Trams, sure

Still trains.

If cities are designed better, trains get more effective. Do mixed zoning and put housing on top of shopping, and the last mile plan problem is largely solved. For the rest, bicycles and buses work well.

And walking can be way better with moving walkways. They're popular at airports, and I'd love to see them more in malls and maybe underground/covered sidewalks.

The most important thing is to commit and make driving more annoying so solutions to the last mile problem can be created. Otherwise you'll just end up with gridlock.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Still trains.

Subways makes more sense.

put housing on top of shopping

Somewhat common where I live, not common enough though.

Subways

Also trains. If it runs on rails, it's a train.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Bicycle insurance and plates? Why? That makes zero sense. We have these for cars because cars are dangerous, not just for funsies. Bicycles don't pose the same danger.

Walking... if you have time and physical ability, but who cares about that, right? It's so cool and eco-friendly to say "just walk 20 minutes".

Yeah it is cool and eco-friendly to walk 20 minutes (assuming one is able-bodied, as you mention.)

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Bicycles do pose similar dangers. A cyclists running a red light it the typical example. Forces someone else to swerve and hit a post then what?

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

Cyclists on the whole break traffic laws a lot less than motorists.

Also, I love how your only example of "the dangers of cyclists" involves someone in a car having to react to a cyclist. If everyone is cycling, speeds are low enough to react and typically avoid collisions even if a potential conflict arises. The "forces someone to swerve" phenomenon mostly happens at the speed of motor vehicles.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Well, they do, but don't cause traffic deaths.