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You can still play it but increasingly games are becoming very different from what you bought.
I've started noticing a disturbing trend. More and more games that are older being sold at steep discounts or "free to play" and simultaneously jampacked with invasive telemetry and/or ads/microtransactions. And since Steam won't let you play older versions, those games are effectively dead.
If I want hacky, I'll go pirate the game. I pay for them so I don't need a computer science degree to play them.
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That shouldn't be necessary and is beside the point.
They do if the dev makes it available, I'm looking at four different versions of Terraria in the beta menu right now that stretch back four major versions. I'm pretty sure a couple games in my library somewhere have their entire update history in there, though I can't think of one to name off the top of my head right now, that's not a feature I use very often. [Edit: Rift Wizard is one that does precisely this, I knew I had at least one in here]
This is not true of all games, but it could be, either directly by game devs without Valve even having to care, or via pressure by Valve by just making older versions available whether the devs want it or not. I think the latter option is probably the better move, but there's technically nothing stopping the former other than the game devs themselves.
There's also a valid argument that making downpatching very easy would be a huge boon to piracy. This is a reasonable talking point no matter which side of that fence you sit on. It would also probably benefit modding as well, which I think is a more objective good but some game developers or more likely publishers would probably disagree.
That shouldn't be their decision.
Literally never seen that before. I think I see if the dev pushing their 4th update that day and now I have to wait a half an hour to play the damn game.
Not my problem. Guess I'd better just pirate the game instead.
You misread my comment. I didn't say they weren't necessary.
Not talking about online games. Besides, the how or why do not matter, the point is the games are gone.
I pay Steam to deal with the hassles. I am not a software engineer.
Valve has the power to enforce this system-wide.
And that matters for the purposes of this conversation why?
I explained why in my first comment. It's why we're talking in the first place.
I don't see it. Neither of them have to support old versions.
No they don't. If people are clueless, they don't need to utilize this feature. It's call an "option".
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Out of the thousands of games I have, not once have I noticed anything like you describe.
Oh well if you haven't experienced it, it must not exist then 🤷
hmmm that doesn't ring a bell here either. Which games do this ?
The most recent ones I've noticed are Riders Republic and Borderlands 2. Helldivers also introduced a bunch of new microtransactions years after it's launch.
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...yeah? Of course it is.
I pay Steam to do that.
Not interested.
That's exactly the problem.
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Why would you think another company doing it better makes Valve not responsible? I don't understand the logic.
...no? It's not. You don't have to play it online.
Of course it does?
There is no question. GOG is proof that you can do it. Therefore if others don't do it, it's their fault.
Once again, all of this is beside the point. The point is that those games are effectively gone.
Virtually every game in existence has some sort of online element. But what you seem to be unable to grasp is that many of them have single player modes that don't require any internet connection.
It's as simple has having a server that checks the version of the game installed before allowing access to online services.
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No problem 👍
I have to say I never played those. Do these microtransactions lock content that was previously available out of the box?
I mean, if it’s a trend, you’d think I would have noticed it by now.
And I suppose my experience doesn't count? Or you think I'm making this up?
I don’t know, you haven’t pointed out multiple examples.