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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Petitions like this are meaningless unless they come with a viable solution to the duopoly in payment processing that is Visa and Mastercard.

It doesn't matter what Valve agrees with, if they want to survive as a business they have to ultimately do what the only 2 companies that handle the payment processing tells them to do.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

You're missing the point. This is not aimed at Valve, but at Visa and MasterCard. They are businesses. They primarily care about profit, not censorship. Especially when that pisses people off. They made the mistake of listening to the vocal minority of Collective Shout, so we have to let them know that. This isn't the 80's anymore, gaming is mainstream and there are far, far more gamers than puritanical Quakers that get the vapors at the sight of anything mature or complicated. And worst-case scenario, they are not the only payment processors, just the most convenient ones for customers and businesses. For now...

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Are you calling them Quakers as a derogatory slur or are they actually Quakers/Religious Society of Friends people.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

A "slur"? No. But I was referring to the overly strict, hair-splitting kind of religious extremism that adheres to the letter of the law, not the spirit/intent.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So yes, you did. Quakers (used to be) quite progressive.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay...? Democrats used to support slavery.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

They flipped their beliefs with Republicans. That's a unlikely occurrence.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't get either of those contexts.

When I read "Quakers", I just recalled Quake III Arena and thought, "that doesn't fit".

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Quakers were some anti authority religious minority (Christian) in Scotland/England. They were notorious for their lack of respect. E.g. used "thy" instead of the formal you. (English changed since then and the informal thy fell out of use)

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

Quakers were

Are. They're still around. Still a relatively big minority Christian group in the UK.

Still everyone's favourite Christian denomination. Cool bunch.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do still wait for an answer.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It was 3 in the morning here. Relax.

Edit: Oh, you just wanted to argue. Definitely sorry I was late for that...

[–] DNS@discuss.online 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Consumers punting the accountability and responsibility of their demise to the next generation of consumers. I hate how feeble and weak willed we are all as a species.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Valve is a big enough company that they could conceivably start their own payment provider to bypass this.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For example they could sell adult games under credits only and take CC or PayPal for credits.

This way you're not buying adult titles with CC at all. Same way AAA deal with gambling with lootboxes.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can't people do this already? Just load up your Steam Wallet, and then use those funds however you want?

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cant use the steam wallet when they delist the game.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes but the payment processors didn't say "you're not allowed to sell this game with our service" they said "you're not allowed to sell this game period or we walk".

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

There's the bullshit right there.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Come on, Gabe. You know you wanna.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You do know what happens to Valve Time any time someone tells Gabe to hurry up, right?