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[–] natecox@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I mean, “to 3d print a wall” is a massive, bordering on disingenuous, understatement of what’s happening there. They’re replacing all of the construction work of framing and finishing all of the walls of the house, interior and exterior, plus attaching them and insulating them, with a single step.

My point is if you want to make a good argument against LLMs, your metaphor should not have such an easy argument against it at the ready.

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 3 points 6 days ago

Huh? They just made the walls. Out of cement.

Making the walls of a house is one of the easiest steps, if not the easiest. And these would still need insulation, electrical, etc. And they look like shit.

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Spoken like a person who has never been involved in the construction of a home. It's effectively doing the job of (poorly) pouring concrete which isn't the difficult or time consuming part.

[–] natecox@programming.dev -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My dude, I worked home renovations for many years. Nice try to discredit me rather than my argument though.

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Ah, my apologies. I had interpreted your message to suggest that pouring cement from a robotic arm fully replaced all of the construction work of framing and finishing all of the walls of the house, interior and exterior, plus attaching them and insulating them, with a single step.

[–] DireTech@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did you see another video about this? The one linked only showed the walls and still showed them doing interior framing. Nothing about windows, electrical, plumbing, insulation, etc.

What they showed could speed up construction but there are tons of other steps involved.

I do wonder how sturdy it is since it doesn’t look like rebar or anything else is added.

[–] natecox@programming.dev -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m not an expert on it, I’ve only watched a few videos on it, but from what I’ve seen they add structural elements between the layers at certain points which act like rebar.

There’s no framing of the walls, but they do set up scaffolds to support overhangs (because you can’t print onto nothing)

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I’m with you on this. We can’t just causally brush aside a machine that can create the frame of a house unattended - just because it can’t also do wiring. It was a bad choice of image to use to attack AI. In fact it’s a perfect metaphor for what AI is actually good for: automating certain parts of the work. Yes you still need an electrician to come in, just like you also need a software engineer to wire up the UI code their LLM generated to the back end, etc.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You circled all the way back to the original point lol. The whole thrust of this conversation is "AI can be used to automate parts of the work, but you still need knowledgeable people to finish it". Just like "a concrete 3d printer can be used to automate parts of building a house, but you still need knowledgeable people to finish it."

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That’s your whole point, but you’re making it in bizarre ways, like equating a concrete 3D printer with a hammer and saying that building a house frame is meaningless because there’s still more to do.

Your issue is that you’re arguing with a straw man that’s not present. No one said AI can do absolutely everything soup to nuts. It allows for more automation than ever before, full stop. And you’re still harping on “yeah but you still need people.” No shit.

Then you blundered into the rhetorical pit of expecting everyone to hear “3D printing a house” as patently ridiculous, when in fact enormous strides are being made on that.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I swear, no one reads the username they're replying to lmao.

I didn't say any of that. I'm not the one that made the original comment that started this thread, I'm not arguing with any straw men. I'm just some guy several comments deep in the thread that decided to contribute.

No one said AI can do absolutely everything soup to nuts.

Yes they did, there's an entire "vibe coding" industry based on non-developers using AI to write (shitty) software from start to finish. All kinds of software and tech companies are encouraging more and more AI use because they believe AI can write software from the ground up. This article is a direct response to those people.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

You’re right I did not check the usernames, sorry.

And I happen to work at one of those tech companies and am bombarded daily by AI. But it is very much understood as a tool for software engineers to use, not a wind up miracle machine that just does everything. That is an overhyped exaggeration of how it’s actually seen and used.