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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Eventually we'll have "defensive" and "offensive" llm's managing all kinds of electronic warfare automatically, effectively nullifying each other.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 32 points 4 days ago (3 children)

That's actually a major plot point in Cyberpunk 2077. There's thousands of rogue AI's on the net that are constantly bombarding a giant firewall protecting the main net and everything connected to it from being taken over by the AI.

[–] Klear@quokk.au 6 points 4 days ago

The game is an excellent documentary.

[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not to mention the firewall is itself AI.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unrelated, but I saw this headline, and could hear both you and squidward swearing from here.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago

It doesn't bode well. Honestly I fear at some point in the future, if these countermeasures can't keep up, small sites may need to close themselves off with invite-only access. Hopefully that's quite a distant future.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 3 points 4 days ago

Places like cloudflare and akamai are already using machine learning algorithms to detect bot traffic at a network level. You need to use similar machine learning to evade them. And since most of these scrapers are for AI companies I'd expect a lot of the scrapers to be LLM generated.

Obligatory AI ≠ LLM. How would scrapers benefit from the LLMs they help train? The defense is obvious, LLM-generated slop traps against scrapers already exist.