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[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I have never fucked a woman but I fucked my first man at 29. Does that make me virgin?

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The writers of "The Ethical Slut" advocate for a very broad definition of having sex. They even have a (tongue-in-cheek) bit where they say that by reading the book, you and the authors are engaging in a form of having sex.

I'm not sure I totally agree with going that far, but I do think a broad definition is better.

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

yeah sex isn't really a defined thing, so anything can count as it (or not)

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'll take it in another direction from the other responses and just say: people give too much of a fuck about this idea of virginity.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 8 points 2 days ago

Nah any sex is losing your virginity

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd say as long as it involves another person it counts.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Another live person, who consents.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Is "gold star" dude a thing, or do only women get that label?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'd say 'no', if you think it's fine to call it 'fucking', you're definitely not a virgin anymore. It's always subjective, though, some people think it's only 'sex' if it's p and v with at least one orgasm. Feels fucked up to validate the kinds of people who think 'soaking' makes sense in any way, but when you start considering lesbians, the subjectiveness becomes quite apparent.

From Oxford:

physical activity between two people in which they touch each other’s sexual organs, and which may include sexual intercourse

It's not complicated, whether you're doing manual stimulation, oral stimulation, or penetration, it's all sex. Any other definition is trying to justify some behavior you feel would be inappropriate if labeled as "sex."

[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

if you think it's fine to call it 'fucking', you're definitely not a virgin anymore

Oh, that's great to hear because I think it's fine to say that I've fucked up more than once in my life. So I'm no longer a virgin 🙌