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What If There’s No AGI? (prospect.org)
submitted 3 weeks ago by Pro@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/36866515

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Spoiler: There's no "AI". Forget about "AGI" lmao.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's just false. The chess opponent on Atari qualifies as AI.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Then a trivial table lookup that plays optimal Tic Tac Toe is also AI.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 2 points 3 weeks ago

Not really the same thing. The Tic Tac Toe brute force is just a lookup - every possible state is pre-solved and the program just spits back the stored move. There’s no reasoning or decision-making happening. Atari Chess, on the other hand, couldn’t possibly store all chess positions, so it actually ran a search and evaluated positions on the fly. That’s why it counts as AI: it was computing moves, not just retrieving them.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know man... the "intelligence" that silicon valley has been pushing on us these last few years feels very artificial to me

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

True. OP should have specified whether they meant the machines or the execs.

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 weeks ago

That's like saying you shouldn't call artificial grass artificial grass cause it isn't grass. Nobody has a problem with that, why is it a problem for AI?

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

If you don't know what CSAIL is, and why one of the most important groups to modern computing is the MIT Model Railroading Club, then you should step back from having an opinion on this.

Steven Levy's 1984 book "Hackers" is a good starting point.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

A Prolog program is AI. Eliza is AI. AGI - sometime later.