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E: apparently it needs to be said that I am not suggesting you switch to Linux on your phone today; just that development needs to accelerate. Please don't be one of the 34 people that replied to tell me Linux is not ready.

Android has always been a fairly open platform, especially if you were deliberate about getting it that way, but we've seen in recent months an extremely rapid devolution of the Android ecosystem:

  1. The closing of development of an increasing number of components in AOSP.
  2. Samsung, Xiaomi and OnePlus have removed the option of bootloader unlocking on all of their devices. I suspect Google is not far behind.
  3. Google implementing Play Integrity API and encouraging developers to implement it. Notably the EU's own identity verification wallet requires this, in stark contrast to their own laws and policies, despite the protest of hundreds on Github.
  4. And finally, the mandatory implementation of developer verification across Android systems. Yes, if you're running a 3rd-party OS like GOS you won't be directly affected by this, but it will impact 99.9% of devices, and I foresee many open source developers just opting out of developing apps for Android entirely as a result. We've already seen SyncThing simply discontinue development for this reason, citing issues with Google Play Store. They've also repeatedly denied updates for NextCloud with no explanation, only restoring it after mass outcry. And we've already seen Google targeting any software intended to circumvent ads, labeling them in the system as "dangerous" and "untrusted". This will most certainly carry into their new "verification" system.

Google once competed with Apple for customers. But in a world where Google walks away from the biggest antitrust trial since 1998 with yet another slap on the wrist, competition is dead, and Google is taking notes from Apple about what they can legally get away with.

Android as we know it is dead. And/or will be dead very soon. We need an open replacement.

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[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So which is the best project to back?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I dunno! It will really require the participation of the entire community.

Gnome has been making great progress on the graphical front.

Notifications should be pretty simple, and probably should be provided by hardware manufacturers. But the support will need to be implemented into the apps that need them. That can potentially also fix the battery issue.

PostmarketOS I think is probably the most mature Linux mobile package currently but I'm no expert on the subject.

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd argue that Ubuntu Touch and Sailfish are the most mature offerings. Both OSs are (or at least were at some point) developed as commercially viable alternatives to the duopoly. That gives them a headstart in terms of apps and overall pollish.

The postmarket shells are catching up, but you still get instructions like "drag and drop a file from your file manager to open it", which doesn't work on a phone. Phone UX still seems like an afterthought in many cases.

Postmarket OS is a desktop Linux system, but for phones. UT and Sailfish on the other hand are mobile OSs, that happen to use much of the same tech as desktop Linux. They are therefore much closer to the duopoly (for bettet or for worse).

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Great, thanks! The next step would be to figure out if either is compatible with Syncthing and GPS-guided nav...

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Woohoo!! Now I can't decide between the two...

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Have had both. Still have Sailfish because the phone is cheaper.
Also I thought Ubuntu Touch would be discontinued and I no longer use Ubuntu on my desktop,
but an Arch-based OS.
Best thing you can do is buy a phone that's most compatible to the OS.

So Fairphone 5 or Pixel 3a for Ubuntu Touch,
and Jolla 2 for the Sailfish.

Do not buy Pine64.
Pine64 is unusable.

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't the VollaPhone Quintus the best option for Ubuntu Touch? (It's more expensive than the Fair Phone, but it ships with UT)

https://volla.online/en/index.php

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

If it does ship it with UT and Fairphone doesn't, then yes.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 1 points 19 hours ago

Dang it, I gotta change, I guess, unless this info is old:

Keep in mind that there is no known way to unlock the bootloader of the North American (Canada and the USA) editions of the Galaxy S23. - https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-unlock-bootloader-root-magisk-samsung-galaxy-s23