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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 143 points 4 days ago (6 children)

tl;dr you can still "sideload" via adb.

This is so incredibly inconvenient as to be meaningless.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 60 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It's not completely meaningless because if it's truly the only option I'm going to be using it until I eventually replace my current phone with one with an unlocked bootloader.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm afraid that won't help. There will be even fewer people developing apps specifically for the 0.01% of us using custom ROMs.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They're already developing the apps for the 1% of us not just using proprietary apps from the play store. I don't think this just kills open source app development.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's not who we're talking about. We're talking about the 0.1% who have custom ROMs.

It won't kill it completely but it will severely hurt it. The more complicated it becomes, the smaller the userbase becomes.

Apps like Syncthing have already discontinued development due to Google shenanigans + lack of users. That'll only get worse as the userbase shrinks.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There are plenty of people developing apps that require root, and users who run those are already jumping through a million hoops of cat and mouse to keep their fucking mcdonalds app detecting it so they can get cheaper coffees and free fries.

Like seriously, wtf McDonalds, your app is like the ultimate root/safetynet/device id detection tool, I don't think there exists even a banking app that is as hard to fool.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When my current phone dies I'll be buying a flip phone.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Guess what!? Those are all Android too!

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

But I guess those don’t have Google Play or anything Google, they’re more like a limited Android.

[–] yessikg@fedia.io 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Guess what!? KaiOS is Android!

[–] yessikg@fedia.io 0 points 3 days ago

They can go back to being a Linux OS much easier than anybody else

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

Rimjob_steve moment

[–] dukatos@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

good luck updating all your apps that way...

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 4 days ago
[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It will be stupid, but I presume there will be a rise in desktop apps or webapps that require you to only plug the phone in and it will handle the rest.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, if something like Obtanium needs to run on my desktop instead of my phone and I have to plug it in every once in a while, that's not the end of the world.

[–] balder1991@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I think adb can also work over Wi-Fi, just like Android Studio can connect to the phone and build and install without plugging it.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago

There are already android apps that allow you to ADB into your own phone without root, so you could VERY EASILY just make an app store that utilises that, you only need to install the app from desktop once

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Perhaps someone could write an 'adb loopback' app -- get that into the official app store, and said app would then squirt other .apk files through adb on the phone to itself, thus sideloading it.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago

ADB loopback apps already exist, such as Shizuku

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

As far as I know, ADB needs to be run on another device which is plugged into the phone.

I suppose one could write a script/app that detects the device is plugged in, and automatically looks for and installs updates using adb. That would be the least amount of friction.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 3 days ago

I think you can run ADB on another Android device, so maybe an Obtainium+ADB device that stays at home.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago

We already have to do that to install older apps. It's inconvenient, but not as bad as having to boot up an ancient phone every time you need to use the app.