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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/37300843

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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Kids spend far too much time in school on their phones. This is simply true.

Counter point to this tho: Kids go to school knowing a shooting can happen at any time and need to have their phones for if that happens.

I can't support restricting phones before we restrict firearms.

[–] ksigley@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

This is the answer.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 21 hours ago

Sort of agree?

Yeah, guns must be banned completely in the US, fully agree, but phones in class too. Waiting with one for the other won't make anything better

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm assuming firearms are also restricted in NYC schools.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but the thing with mass shooters is that they don't give a fuck what the law says.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

No, they don't. But anyone who could smuggle in a phone could smuggle in a gun.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, and again: the thing with mass shooters is that they don’t give a fuck what the law says.

They're not going to go through the phone checkpoint, they're just gonna open fire. This would not stop a mass shooting.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Why don't they just have rules like we did years ago. Have your phone out in class and you get a lunch detention, next time a detention, 3rd time sent to the office with a recommendation for suspension.

Kids have to learn to be responsible.... They will have their phone on them everywhere else in life, like work. Learning to be responsible about it seems like education.

[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I fervently agree with your hypothesis, but i dont think you know what it is like inside public schools these days. "Shut up bitch" is the likely response to enforcing that lol

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago

Pick up the phone call the security guard to come escort them to the office for a 30 day suspension. Happens again expelled.

You can start day one with a message on the board that you have a zero tolerance policy for disrespect

The teachers are there to educate not parent. If the kids aren't afraid of getting in trouble then it's the guardians problem. Public education is something that is supposed to be available so kids can learn, and we have turned it into a place to dump your dependents so they can go to work apparently.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

When I was in school every room had a landline phone that could make calls both within the building and externally. Is this not the case now? What advantage does it give for everyone to have a phone? Wouldn't that just create more variables, chaos and panic to deal with during an actual emergency?

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 day ago (5 children)

How do students having phones help in a shooting?

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago

Is this a serious question? Replace "shooting" with any other emergency.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

Calling/texting 911

Letting authorities know where they and/or the shooter is in the building

Even filming and documenting it is important after cunts like Alex Jones convinced an entire political party that all school shootings are fake, Jewish and Illuminati psyops to take away their guns.

[–] Drusenija@aussie.zone 11 points 1 day ago

Calling / reaching out for help is the obvious one, but sadly being able to get their last words out to family is also a consideration.

[–] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

you’re joking right?

Calling police, calling parents, etc.

[–] slaughterhouse@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What are the police gonna do? Wait outside until the shooter runs out of bullets, then go in to finish the job?

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Cops are worthless pieces of shit, 99% of the time. And Uvalde PD especially if that's what you're referencing.

Although, the release of the evidence that they did that, (which the GOP and UvaldePD fought tooth and nail to keep the footage secret), resulted in the following school shooting (the first transgender one the right obsesses over) had ended quickly after the pigs arrived.

Filming their incompetencies has an effect. Not much of one but an effect.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Police can be called by the teacher that’s also in the room. They never come in time anyways. Calling parents just reduces situational awareness by distracting the panicked kids.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

Oh ok I didn't realize you had survived multiple school shootings. Sorry you live in america.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago

It's nice to be able to call your parents when you're bleeding out in the school atrium.