this post was submitted on 17 Sep 2025
209 points (98.2% liked)

Technology

75233 readers
3034 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Neat breakdown with data + some code.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] ratten@lemmings.world 6 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

How come we can't design energy storage that lifts something heavy when there's excess power, and lets it fall to generate electricity when needed?

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 2 points 9 minutes ago

It's an idea that's been played with a few times, but there are many energy loss points in such a system, as well as logistics for keeping the "stack" from falling over. The best so far is pumping water up to an artificial lake, but that's still not very efficient.

[–] edent@lemmy.world 5 points 55 minutes ago

1 Watt is the equivalent of moving 1Kg 1 metre in 1 second.

If you want a kilowatt - you need to move 1,000Kg 1 metre in 1 second. Or, I guess, 1Kg a Km.

Plug the numbers together and you'll see that you need a massive physical load and a huge distance in order to store a useful amount of energy.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 hour ago

The energy math doesn't make sense for grid scale applications with solid objects.

https://youtu.be/iGGOjD_OtAM

However if you can get water between two places it can work quite well. You need to live close to a big change in altitude and do a bit of geoengineering to create the upper and lower reservoirs, which can be destructive to local ecology, but not as much as a dam.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped-storage_hydroelectricity

You can also use pumped air underwater with higher energy losses than pumped storage hydro because of compatibility of air.

https://electricalindustry.ca/changing-scenes/1785-world-s-first-utility-scale-underwater-compressed-air-energy-storage-system-activated-in-lake-ontario/